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April 14, 2015 at 3:31 pm #301594nonnieParticipant
And that just got rid of Regina’s apology to Belle in 3×18. *yay*
*curses Once writers*
I am thinking she gets BELLE’S permission to take her heart … BELLE will want to protect herself from RUMPLE who is her biggest weakness…. that would be the first SMART move on Belle’s part during 4B.
+.+[adrotate group="5"]April 14, 2015 at 3:34 pm #301595PriceofMagicParticipantWatch as that little trick is never brought up or referenced again. It was just a plot device to give reason for the Panry body switch instead of having Pan just take Henry’s heart.
Regina mentions in 3B that no one can control her through her heart because its protected.
Still a plot device to prolong the drama instead of the villains just using the hearts to get what they want. If the heart protection was any thing other than a plot device then the entirety of the core characters would be protected. The heart protection was only to stop Pan and Zelena from killing Henry and Regina respectively. If Hook’s heart was protected, 4A couldn’t have happened. If Belle’s heart was protected, Regina couldn’t use her as leverage against Rumple.
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Keeper of FelixApril 14, 2015 at 3:43 pm #301598PriceofMagicParticipant
I am thinking she gets BELLE’S permission to take her heart … BELLE will want to protect herself from RUMPLE who is her biggest weakness…. that would be the first SMART move on Belle’s part during 4B.
I disagree.
1. Rumple would never harm Belle deliberately. The only risk he poses to her is that she would be used by others as leverage against him.
2. Belle isn’t going to join Rumple’s team even if she does love him. (Although I think dark Belle would be an interesting storyline).
3. If Regina is aiming to use Belle as leverage against Rumple, then she wants him to think she poses a danger to Belle in order to make him co-operate. Asking Belle’s permission, and playing nice with Belle, isn’t going to give that impression. Rumple sees Regina on team heroes right now. Team heroes means Regina isn’t going to do anything to Belle. Therefore Regina is going to have to go rogue and just take Belle’s heart without asking. Even if she has no intention of harming Belle, she needs to keep up the illusion that Belle is at risk unless Rumple co-operates.
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Keeper of FelixApril 14, 2015 at 3:49 pm #301600SlurpeezParticipant*reads spoiler* Now Regina is using Belle as leverage against Gold after Gold threatened Robin? Regina is using Hook’s tactics from S2 of targeting Belle to get at Gold. And here I thought Regina was meant to be on the road to redemption. Is she backtracking down a dark path?
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April 14, 2015 at 3:58 pm #301601nonnieParticipant
I am thinking she gets BELLE’S permission to take her heart … BELLE will want to protect herself from RUMPLE who is her biggest weakness…. that would be the first SMART move on Belle’s part during 4B.
I disagree.
1. Rumple would never harm Belle deliberately. The only risk he poses to her is that she would be used by others as leverage against him.
2. Belle isn’t going to join Rumple’s team even if she does love him. (Although I think dark Belle would be an interesting storyline).
3. If Regina is aiming to use Belle as leverage against Rumple, then she wants him to think she poses a danger to Belle in order to make him co-operate. Asking Belle’s permission, and playing nice with Belle, isn’t going to give that impression. Rumple sees Regina on team heroes right now. Team heroes means Regina isn’t going to do anything to Belle. Therefore Regina is going to have to go rogue and just take Belle’s heart without asking. Even if she has no intention of harming Belle, she needs to keep up the illusion that Belle is at risk unless Rumple co-operates.
BECAUSE BELLE knows her weakness is RUMPLE … She lets REGINA take her heart… She is not worried RUMPLE will hurt her…. SHE IS WORRIED SHE will forgive RUMPLE and let him wrap her around his little finger…. That is my take on this possibility.
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.April 14, 2015 at 5:48 pm #301617SweetsParticipantThe heart protection was only to stop Pan and Zelena from killing Henry and Regina respectively. If Hook’s heart was protected, 4A couldn’t have happened. If Belle’s heart was protected, Regina couldn’t use her as leverage against Rumple.
I have to disagree that this is a plot device. This makes sense to the characters. Regina care about Henry. Period. She’s growing into her feelings for the other characters, but would she really go around protecting everyone’s heart? No.
As far as Hook, who cares about Hook besides Emma? None of the magic users are his biggest fan. Who would protect his heart?
We don’t know if this Belle thing is true, but it would be interesting if Rumple didn’t protect her heart.
And Emma’s heart is protected.
April 14, 2015 at 6:08 pm #301621PriceofMagicParticipantI have to disagree that this is a plot device. This makes sense to the characters. Regina care about Henry. Period. She’s growing into her feelings for the other characters, but would she really go around protecting everyone’s heart? No.
As far as Hook, who cares about Hook besides Emma? None of the magic users are his biggest fan. Who would protect his heart?
We don’t know if this Belle thing is true, but it would be interesting if Rumple didn’t protect her heart.
And Emma’s heart is protected.
I agree that Regina would protect Henry’s heart first and foremost then her own. I agree that neither Regina or Rumple care about Hook enough to protect his heart. However, Emma cares about Hook and Rumple cares about Belle, if there was a meaningful way to protect their hearts then why hasn’t Rumple or Emma used it or asked Regina to do it. It just seems odd that there is a way to protect the heart of your loved one from being ripped out of their chest, in a show where crushed heart is a common cause of death, and neither Rumple or Emma have thought to put this protection on Belle or Hook.
It’s a plot device in that it was used so Pan and Zelena couldn’t kill Henry or Regina respectively thus moving the plot forward but none of the other characters have used it because doing so would inhibit the plot as it is now.
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Keeper of FelixApril 14, 2015 at 6:33 pm #301625TheWatcherParticipantIf Belle takes out her heart, and say she actually prefers the feeling of not being able to feel her hurt over the heartbreak Rump caused her to feel,she may not want it to be put back in. Sound familiar? (for those who didn’t watch WL, that is basically very similar to what Will did and seeing how he and Belle are a thing now, this may be a bonding thing for them)
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Rump has no excuse, but Emma isn’t very magic savvy enough to think about it so she gets off on this one.
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Keeper Of Tamara's Taser , Jafar's Staff, Kitsis’s Glasses , Ariel’s Tail, Dopey's Hat , Peter Pan’s Shadow, Outfit, & Pied Cloak,Red Queen's Castle, White Rabbit's Power To World Hop, Zelena's BroomStick, & ALL MAGICApril 14, 2015 at 7:17 pm #301637SweetsParticipantIf Belle takes out her heart, and say she actually prefers the feeling of not being able to feel her hurt over the heartbreak Rump caused her to feel,she may not want it to be put back in.
Is Belle all that heartbroken? She already has a new boo. And Rumple screwed her over (again)
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