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April 17, 2015 at 8:56 pm #301916TheWatcherParticipant
she should go after Rumple’s dagger if she wants to control the dark one.
And how easy would that be? With the dagger in Rumps possession that’s a suicide mission.
What Regina is doing isn’t nice, I agree, but its what needs to be done. And clearly its working if she plans on going to New York. Rump must have backed off.
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Keeper Of Tamara's Taser , Jafar's Staff, Kitsis’s Glasses , Ariel’s Tail, Dopey's Hat , Peter Pan’s Shadow, Outfit, & Pied Cloak,Red Queen's Castle, White Rabbit's Power To World Hop, Zelena's BroomStick, & ALL MAGICApril 17, 2015 at 9:02 pm #301918RumplesGirlKeymastershe should go after Rumple’s dagger if she wants to control the dark one.
And how easy would that be? With the dagger in Rumps possession that’s a suicide mission. What Regina is doing isn’t nice, I agree, but its what needs to be done. And clearly its working if she plans on going to New York. Rump must have backed off.
Oh dear. Really?
Violence against another human being is “what needs to be done”
That’s a rather steep slope to start down there, Watcher.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"April 17, 2015 at 9:41 pm #301923TheWatcherParticipantOh dear. Really? Violence against another human being is “what needs to be done” That’s a rather steep slope to start down there, Watcher.
Belle isn’t being hurt, she’s in no danger, rump isn’t going to do anything that will cause harm to her, Regina will not crush her heart, and by taking it Regina is stopping Rump from doin what he is doing. Now if regina were planning on killing Belle then I’d understand where you guys are coming from but I am sure Belle’s heart will be returned safe and soundly soon enough.
I know this is something everyone wont agree with and I’d love to hear other options (and im really asking for other options out of curiosity) that Regina could take in this situation. Going after Rumps dagger is a good option but not realistic because no way Rump just keeps it laying around. This is the next best sure fire thing that’ll keep him in line.
"I could have the giant duck as my steed!" --Daniel Radcliffe
Keeper Of Tamara's Taser , Jafar's Staff, Kitsis’s Glasses , Ariel’s Tail, Dopey's Hat , Peter Pan’s Shadow, Outfit, & Pied Cloak,Red Queen's Castle, White Rabbit's Power To World Hop, Zelena's BroomStick, & ALL MAGICApril 17, 2015 at 9:55 pm #301924RumplesGirlKeymasterBelle isn’t being hurt,
Taking a heart hurts. We’ve seen that enough times to know that it does.
she’s in no danger
No she is. Her heart is outside her body. There is no way to predict every single thing that could happen that could cause her bodily harm. Not to mention…she’s under Regina’s control. It doens’t matter if Regina says she wont’ do anything–Belle has literally lost her self control to another person.
Now if regina were planning on killing Belle then I’d understand where you guys are coming from but I am sure Belle’s heart will be returned safe and soundly soon enough.
And that makes taking her heart, her free will, her choice, her safety, and her ability to be a normal human okay?
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"April 17, 2015 at 10:13 pm #301925TheWatcherParticipantAnd that makes taking her heart, her free will, her choice, her safety, and her ability to be a normal human okay?
It doesn’t. But it darn tootin ensures that an evil sorcerer imp won’t be doing any reality bending writing.
Or Regina could do nothing and put everyone at the mercy of Rumpestiltskin."I could have the giant duck as my steed!" --Daniel Radcliffe
Keeper Of Tamara's Taser , Jafar's Staff, Kitsis’s Glasses , Ariel’s Tail, Dopey's Hat , Peter Pan’s Shadow, Outfit, & Pied Cloak,Red Queen's Castle, White Rabbit's Power To World Hop, Zelena's BroomStick, & ALL MAGICApril 17, 2015 at 10:24 pm #301926WickedRegalParticipantAnd that makes taking her heart, her free will, her choice, her safety, and her ability to be a normal human okay?
It doesn’t. But it darn tootin ensures that an evil sorcerer imp won’t be doing any reality bending writing. Or Regina could do nothing and put everyone at the mercy of Rumpestiltskin.
Exactly!!!
It’s either have some leverage to save Storybrooke from Rumple’s wrath, or doom everyone to it.
"If you go as far as you can see...you will then see enough to go even further." - Finn Balor
April 17, 2015 at 10:26 pm #301927RumplesGirlKeymasterAnd that makes taking her heart, her free will, her choice, her safety, and her ability to be a normal human okay?
It doesn’t. But it darn tootin ensures that an evil sorcerer imp won’t be doing any reality bending writing. Or Regina could do nothing and put everyone at the mercy of Rumpestiltskin.
And when she gives Belle’s heart back? How is this not a short term solution for a long term problem? How does this solve anything? And you’re acting as though Regina is doing this for Emma and the town, but she’s not. She is doing it for Robin. Not SB, Not Emma. No the Charmings. She’s doing it for herself and her love.
If Rumple wanted the Author to rewrite the story he’d do so. Think this through *with logic* Watcher.
The Author, with a quill, simply writes that Regina never took the heart, never hurt Belle, and changed the entire story thus far. That’s Rumple’s goal. Taking Belle’s heart changes none of that when the Writer can simply change it all with a few strokes. Regina has ensured nothing except that for some reasons this allows her to go get Robin; but it has nothing to do with Emma nor the town.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"April 17, 2015 at 10:47 pm #301930TheWatcherParticipantOh yes, i agree about the Author being able to just rewrite everything. But if it were that simple for Rump to undo whatever Regina does, then he would do just that. He would not be afraid to have Regina crush Belle’s heart right then and there because all he would have to do is poof to the Author and make him write that Regina never did it at all.
Having not seen the episode, we cant say that will or won’t happen. But judging from I know from the promos and sneak peeks, it seems it isn’t that simple as Regina is planning a road trip and no way she would do that unless she had handled Rump.And you’re acting as though Regina is doing this for Emma and the town, but she’s not. She is doing it for Robin. Not SB, Not Emma. No the Charmings. She’s doing it for herself and her love.
Robin and his son are sitting in New York with a wicked murderous witch. I think its fine if Regina is concerned with saving them just as much as protecting the town. The town where her own son is. Taking Belle’s heart kills two birds with one stone. She can make sure Rump wont try anything and she is free to leave to go deal with that witch.
Maybe the Author can un-write Regina having the heart. Maybe he can’t for reasons. We will have to wait and see."I could have the giant duck as my steed!" --Daniel Radcliffe
Keeper Of Tamara's Taser , Jafar's Staff, Kitsis’s Glasses , Ariel’s Tail, Dopey's Hat , Peter Pan’s Shadow, Outfit, & Pied Cloak,Red Queen's Castle, White Rabbit's Power To World Hop, Zelena's BroomStick, & ALL MAGICApril 17, 2015 at 10:53 pm #301931RumplesGirlKeymasterRobin and his son are sitting in New York with a wicked murderous witch. I think its fine if Regina is concerned with saving them just as much as protecting the town.
I’m not saying that she shouldn’t be worried. I’m saying let’s not give Regina’s actions some sort of heroic motivation by claiming it’s for the town. This is not a case of “the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.” This is Regina choosing one person’s needs over the other.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"April 18, 2015 at 2:01 am #301939WickedRegalParticipantRobin and his son are sitting in New York with a wicked murderous witch. I think its fine if Regina is concerned with saving them just as much as protecting the town.
I’m not saying that she shouldn’t be worried. I’m saying let’s not give Regina’s actions some sort of heroic motivation by claiming it’s for the town. This is not a case of “the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.” This is Regina choosing one person’s needs over the other.
Again…it is sort of for the town and even for Emma. Regina doesn’t want Emma going dark because Rumple once led her down that path, and you see where that got everyone…imagine the Savior, the future supreme magical power becoming all dark, that is what Regina is trying to prevent, and plus she knows from experience how lonely and terrible being a villain is, and she doesn’t want Emma to make the mistakes she once made.
If Rumple has his way in turning Emma dark…everyone’s screwed! And Rumple will destroy anything in his way of making that nightmare come true….if using Belle is needed to stop it, then that’s what needs to happen.
I KNOW, it’s terrible and it’s sad that it would have to come down to using Belle’s safety against Rumple, but it’s like taking a child’s favorite toy…as long as you have it, they will behave because they are going to want it back. And boy am I gonna get a lot of flak for that comparison. XD
And then…we still don’t even know if Belle is in on it or not? I’m sure to keep Rumple from burning down Storybrooke, she’d cooperate.
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