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January 19, 2014 at 1:11 am #238288kranenParticipant
I’m not going to lie. Given the ratings I never had any hope for a second season. However after reading the response from Paul, I honestly have a gut feeling that they’ll surprise everyone and renew it for next Winter. If it does happen, I agree with what Phee said and it’ll be shorter. However I really don’t think they’re ready to give up on it just yet.
[adrotate group="5"]January 19, 2014 at 1:48 am #238290GaultheriaParticipantI wonder, given the benefit of hindsight, if they might agree to a scaled down S2, which they would air in the OUAT hiatus next year
I think they’d be better off incorporating any new Wonderland ideas into the main show. OUAT and WL were both adequately watchable (though not spectacular) this past fall (northern fall, that is, though I know you know what I mean), but OUAT gets a lot more latitude with fans, and has more staying power, because it had an outstanding first season and a good second season. I don’t think WL can survive as its own series, but the stories and characters can give OUAT a boost, especially if the producers keep rebooting OUAT every 11 episodes.
Hmm, that last line came out sounding snarky, but I didn’t mean it that way at all. I think 11-episode arcs are the perfect length for OUAT now that the big arc from season 1 is finished. I like it that OUAT can reboot mid-season if an arc doesn’t take off, and I think the long mid-season break will help the B-side to stand on its own.
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January 19, 2014 at 2:00 am #238292GaultheriaParticipant[Sorry, duplicate post.]
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January 19, 2014 at 2:27 am #238297PheeParticipantI think they’d be better off incorporating any new Wonderland ideas into the main show.
I wouldn’t be opposed to that at all. Guess their ability to do that would depend on how this first season of WL ends. We know that Alice and Cyrus will end up in SB one or two eps before the end, but we have no idea of the circumstances, if they stay, and if other characters join them there. I’d be especially happy if they managed to work Will into the main show.
I think a NL mini-series could be beneficial if they still wanted a spin-off of some sort to fill next year’s hiatus. Feels like there’s a lot of history they could tell there, but they probably wouldn’t ever have room for it all in the main show, (though I do hope we at least get to see some NL flashbacks if they do another Hook (or a Tink) centric). And people who already watch the parent show would be pretty much guaranteed to watch a NL spin-off. Even people who felt done with seeing NL, I’m guessing would still tune in if it meant seeing more of Robbie Kay’s Pan, and also Hook in his heyday, (the Pan vs Hook stuff was sorely lacking in S3A, that one scene they shared was fabulous but then it amounted to nothing).
I like it that OUAT can reboot mid-season if an arc doesn’t take off, and I think the long mid-season break will help the B-side to stand on its own.
Though the long break is sort of agonising, I do like that Pan and WW will each get their own stand alone mini-season of sorts in which they can have the spotlight. For all the missed opportunities it feels there were in S3A, the split season did allow them to construct a nicely packaged story arc.
January 19, 2014 at 8:29 am #238343RumplesGirlKeymasterI don’t think WL can survive as its own series, but the stories and characters can give OUAT a boost, especially if the producers keep rebooting OUAT every 11 episodes.
I agree.
WL has been fun and it was a nice mid week show to watch before OUAT (though obviously the airing during hiatus would have been better) but if WL was the only show and ONCE never existed I probably wouldn’t be invested at all.
I do want the Knave and Jafar on ONCE, though. Cylice are fine and cute but outside of WL I have no burning desire to watch them.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"January 19, 2014 at 7:44 pm #238553MatthewPaulModeratorHonestly, rather than give Wonderland a 2nd Season, I’d rather they experiment with another spinoff for the winter hiatus. Perhaps the suggested Once Upon A Time in Neverland would have that potential.
January 19, 2014 at 7:48 pm #238558RumplesGirlKeymasterHonestly, rather than give Wonderland a 2nd Season, I’d rather they experiment with another spinoff for the winter hiatus. Perhaps the suggested Once Upon A Time in Neverland would have that potential.
If they did a OUATinNL situation, I vote for a summer mini series/webisodes situation. 6 episodes; Pan, Tink and Hook. Their full history. Nothing else. Just that.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"January 22, 2014 at 10:38 pm #239739darkones1fanParticipantMatthewPaul wrote: Honestly, rather than give Wonderland a 2nd Season, I’d rather they experiment with another spinoff for the winter hiatus. Perhaps the suggested Once Upon A Time in Neverland would have that potential.
If they did a OUATinNL situation, I vote for a summer mini series/webisodes situation. 6 episodes; Pan, Tink and Hook. Their full history. Nothing else. Just that.
If they do that, they should explain how Hook got off of NL and maybe some episode involving Tink and Pan’s relationship (Non Romantic….Hopefully ). Also maybe some of the Jobs Hook did for Peter.
Another idea I have for WL concepts is just have Jafar appear in flashbacks in ONCE regular.
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