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I had a theory about how it was started. Wendy and her brothers created it when they were young, thinking of the name as cool, in order to look for Bae. But as they were able to get to Neverland through the Shadow, Pan captured them all. He allowed the brothers to go so long as they did his bidding, but Pan kept Wendy there, interrogating her. He found out about “The Home Office” and sent the brothers back with the backdrop that they were an organization to destroy magic, thereby giving Pan control over them and more room to search for the heart of the truest believer, Henry’s. Just a thought!
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I had a theory about how it was started. Wendy and her brothers created it when they were young, thinking of the name as cool, in order to look for Bae. But as they were able to get to Neverland through the Shadow, Pan captured them all. He allowed the brothers to go so long as they did his bidding, but Pan kept Wendy there, interrogating her. He found out about ”The Home Office” and sent the brothers back with the backdrop that they were an organization to destroy magic, thereby giving Pan control over them and more room to search for the heart of the truest believer, Henry’s. Just a thought!
I had a similar thought way back in Season 2 when we first heard the words The Home Office. I hope they expand on that because I can’t decide if PP came up with it on his own or not.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"I think he turned the Darlings’ good intentions (using it to find Baelfire) into something malicious (using it to find Bae’s son). John and Michael did mention that they failed once, so that might’ve been it.
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Wendy was in her night gown so it seems Pan kidnapped her that very night. The Bros. Darling said they knew who they were working for so i dont think they created it, maybe Pan just created THO in order to have spies in our land to do his bidding which goes along with the theory that Pan cant physically leave the island, which is why he sends his shadow.
GOAT said that magic has been here before and caused damage… Is that just a lie Pan told them? If they were working for Pan, why did he send Tamara after the Dragon in S2?
Personally, i think the Home Office is real….. Or some organization like it. And GOAT just THOUGHT they were doing its bidding when Pan just intercepted them and put them on a false mission… GOAT had to have been doing THO’s work for some years… I really cant believe it was Pan the whole time.
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Good point!
Wendy was in her night gown so it seems Pan kidnapped her that very night. The Bros. Darling said they knew who they were working for so i dont think they created it, maybe Pan just created THO in order to have spies in our land to do his bidding which goes along with the theory that Pan cant physically leave the island, which is why he sends his shadow.
Or she was just wearing the same nightgown. She hasn’t grown up enough for a new one, I guess.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"Suppose the Darling kids didn’t know that much about the shadow and Pan. Could they have? Wendy didn’t look like she had aged much, and it is said Pan had her has prisoner for more than a century. So think Wendy came to Neverland again not long after Bae, her brothers probably with her, or they followed, or were taken by the shadow, that is still open. John and Michael look like being in their late 20s maybe early 30s, so my guess is, they came to Neverland as kids and Pan sent them to our world after Neal managed to escape the island (or after he let Neal escape).
Think the Darlings had not much of a plan or even idea how to save Bae, but as kids sometimes can be, they wanted to be the heroes and save him. Possible John and Michael went first, and Wendy was then coerced to follow. Or Wendy went first, hoping she could somehow convince Pan to let her and Bae go (she knew Pan was creepy, but hardly what a psychopath he is), and then her brother followed to rescue her. Whatever, doubt they had really a plan or something, so if they coined the term Home Office that was more a childish thing.
Home Office in the UK is the official term for what is known to US citizens as Department of Homeland Security, in other countries it would be eventually a part of what there is called ministry of interior (Germany for example). It is responsible for police, border agency and security services (MI5, not MI6, so not Bond, but people do mix it up). It was formed in 1782. So the Darlings could have known the term.
Possible, that Tamara and Greg somehow were made to believe that they actually worked for the government, in this case that would be the government of the United Kingdom, thus the use of the term Home Office. It’s amazing how many people want to be some kind of James Bond, and why shouldn’t a government department be interested in keeping magic at bay or out of this world, if magic is seen as a threat. People believe in stranger things. In real though there was no department, they weren’t working for the real Home Office, but John and Michael made it up, or Pan told them to (more likely I think), because who would work for anyone saying they are minions of Peter Pan? Seriously, maybe some 6 year old would find that thrilling, but as teenager at the latest one would have questioned that. In our world, with James Bond movies and spy movies and S.H.I.E.L.D and HYDRA agencies all around, working for Home Office sounds a lot more plausible, especially when the people telling you that have a neat British accent and you’re some half educated american high school kid or college twenty-something. 😉
The Home Office is bogus in my opinion. There never was a secrete organization. Possible they (aka John and Michael) recruited a few more people, but don’t think there was some big thing going on.
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Suppose the Darling kids didn’t know that much about the shadow and Pan. Could they have? Wendy didn’t look like she had aged much, and it is said Pan had her has prisoner for more than a century. So think Wendy came to Neverland again not long after Bae, her brothers probably with her, or they followed, or were taken by the shadow, that is still open. John and Michael look like being in their late 20s maybe early 30s, so my guess is, they came to Neverland as kids and Pan sent them to our world after Neal managed to escape the island (or after he let Neal escape).
I’m really curious to see how old Wendy is supposed to be now. She appears to be wearing the same nightgown as we saw her in at the end of S2, so that does suggest that she’s probably around the same age. The brothers’ ages though…they obviously have aged a considerable amount, so I wonder if they were taken to NL a considerable time after Wendy was. If Pan took all three of them as kids, the age they were in S2, then how did those boys grow up so much? It would have to mean that Pan sent them back to our world, still as young children, and had them stay here for 15 or so years, and then get them back somehow. It’s less complicated for Pan if he just takes Wendy, and then 15 or so years later, comes back for her brothers.
Whatever, doubt they had really a plan or something, so if they coined the term Home Office that was more a childish thing.
Yeah I’m thinking they were pretty naive when they tried whatever they tried to beat Pan and get Bae back. And I could see them calling themselves THO, same way that Henry gives his undercover missions names. Pan could have adopted the name THO as a way to mock them once he’d forced them into working for him.
In our world, with James Bond movies and spy movies and S.H.I.E.L.D and HYDRA agencies all around, working for Home Office sounds a lot more plausible, especially when the people telling you that have a neat British accent and you’re some half educated american high school kid or college twenty-something. 😉
Good point about the accents. That would have helped if they were trying to make GOAT think they were working for the real life organisation.
Possible they (aka John and Michael) recruited a few more people, but don’t think there was some big thing going on.
I think at the very least, August was also recruited, and that’s how he got the info about Neal being Bae, and how he was given his mission to go and break them up. That’s something that Pan wanted to happen.
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