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August 24, 2016 at 1:33 pm #326809
thedarkonedearie
ParticipantOk let’s delve into this here: Overall I enjoyed it, but had some issues here and there.
Liked:
– Amy being evil the whole time. That was a twist that no one saw coming. I mean, we thought that the final person behind the mask was possessed Amy, but thought it could be a plot hole bc certain people died before the lightning struck. Turns out, she was just a horrible person who killed her whole family, and the people at the camp before she was even possessed. Bravo writers. This was good.
– We kept asking why the demon chose Amy. Well, it wasn’t bc she was the purest of them all. It’s because she was the most screwed up of them all. Very nice. Hooray for actually getting answers.
– As much as I didn’t like Jessie living, Deb dying was a shocker. I still thought someone would come in and save the day. But nope. Ax to the face. She really thought a knife would kill it? Geez Deb.
Mixed
– Who messed with the piano keys?
– Why was Deb not the most innocent person?
– Was it really necessary to bring back that random girl from Amy’s flashback? Didn’t serve much of a purpose.
Disliked:
– Deb didn’t really save anybody. She is not the hero, and she is not the villain. WTF. Very odd character and ultimately, kinda fell flat for me. If anything, Jessie saved the kids and Deb by sacrificing herself. And yet, she still lives. Bc she is the “purest,” is she the only one who can stop the demon. We know you can’t just shoot it, or knife it. Can anyone else see a magical macguffin appearing in the finale?
– So what’s up with Blair? Is he really the only person not getting a flashback?
– THEY SAID SNUFF OUT THE LIGHT!!!! HAHAHAHAHA
– Jessie living is a bummer. Why was her soul so pure? SHE had the purest soul? That’s what they are going with?
– Still lots of cliches. All the bus driver stuff basically.
– How did young Amy kill her family exactly? She couldn’t have known her brother would lock her in the garage. This puzzles me still.
So one week left. I feel like we may be done with the flashbacks. I just don’t see Blair getting one in the final episode here. So what on Earth is going to happen? Does anyone else get the feeling that they actually might kill everyone, and the demon lives on so they can do another season?
[adrotate group="5"]August 24, 2016 at 1:54 pm #326813MatthewPaul
ModeratorSo, what’s up with Deb? Why is she not as innocent as we might have thought. Amy made it sound like Deb was just like her.
Here’s what they had to say about that in one of the above interviews:
TVLINE | And poor Deb got killed before we found out what she did. Will we find out next week?
HOROWITZ | That would be the line that sets up Season 2 — should there be one.TVLINE | Are we looking at a cliffhanger next week, or will things be wrapped up neatly?
HOROWITZ | I’d say the finale wraps up the story of Season 1 and hopefully satisfies the audience in answering all of the questions we set up for this season’s story, while acknowledging that there’s a bigger story at play that hopefully we go to on and tell more stories from Camp Stillwater throughout the years. The approach of this series is that each series would be a different summer at the camp in a different era.
KITSIS | We’re very inspired by Fargo, the anthology. People will be connected. Season 2 would be 1970, the summer Deb was a counselor … and there could potentially be a Season 3 set in 2004 where one of these kids — if anyone survives — is now the director.Honestly, I’m intrigued with the idea of having other Seasons set in different eras. However, based on the ratings, I just don’t think Freeform will renew it. Is this going to be like Wonderland, where the quality suddenly really ramps up too little too late? While I did enjoy Wonderland as a whole, I still admit that the initial batch of episodes dragged on a bit. Still better than the earlier episodes of Dead of Summer, but the overall idea remains the same.
August 24, 2016 at 2:07 pm #326815thedarkonedearie
ParticipantOk that makes more sense then. Ind I’d be a little disappointed if the show got canceled and we never found out what she did. Since she had the mask in her closet, I’m guessing she was a follower and turned away from the evil to the side of good. Kind of in a Snape sort of way.
I am not as familiar with how ratings should be to be successful on networks like Freeform. Are DOS’s ratings still really bad, even for Freeform?
August 24, 2016 at 2:23 pm #326818MatthewPaul
ModeratorI am not as familiar with how ratings should be to be successful on networks like Freeform. Are DOS’s ratings still really bad, even for Freeform?
It’s been getting 0.2’s in the 18-49 demo, so it’s not doing great. However, the rest of the network isn’t doing that well either, so I guess there is still a chance of a renewal. Cable is a very different ballgame compared to traditional broadcast.
August 24, 2016 at 3:13 pm #326820RumplesGirl
Keymaster.2 isn’t great at all, but Freeform is in a FreeFall (see what I did there?) PLL is really the saving grace of that network.
I rather like the idea of an anthology series so I guess we’ll see in the next few weeks if it gets renewed or not.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"August 29, 2016 at 6:38 pm #326950RumplesGirl
KeymasterNot sure how this will affect DoS chances for a S2, but Freeform did announce today that Pretty Little Liars will end in 2017.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"August 30, 2016 at 10:27 pm #326958RumplesGirl
KeymasterHmm
Maybe I’ll have more to say in the morning but I was rather disappointed in that finale. I still don’t get how this world they built works or why the mythology works the way it does. Like, I’m still missing a lot of motivation from the “dark” side and any sort of understanding about the light side. It’s so vague and archtypical that it’s hard to grab on to it.
The character was work was good to a point but I feel rather cheated about Drew and Blair. They’re clearly just diversity fillers (even though Drew’s backstory was well done). They had no role outside of emphasizing their “otherness.”
*shrug* At any rate, it was something to watch.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"August 31, 2016 at 1:56 pm #326963thedarkonedearie
ParticipantI found myself really disliking the first half of the finale, and then liking the second half. Jessie emerged as the hero, and how they ended up catching the demon I thought worked well. And it tied things up nicely, despite leaving questions about the mythology unanswered.
Here’s a few Lost spoilers because the parallels are just too much to ignore, so turn back if you must……..
I think the motive for the dark side was somewhat that of Lost’s smoke monster. And if you will, this camp was sort of like a cork keeping the darkness at bay from reaching the outside world and wreaking havoc. The light side (Holyoke) is like Jacob. Sort of the protector to make sure the darkness doesn’t get the chance to leave. It seems like Garrett will now be resuming that role since Holyoke is like completely gone (at least that’s what the writers said after the episode was over). So basically Holyoke was Jacob, the demon was the man in black, Garrett is Hugo (or you could even say Garrett is like Jack in the sense that he sacrificed himself, helped defeat the demon, and then reunited with his dead father in the afterlife), Jessie emerged as a Kate-type-hero figure (delivering the final blow and then being one of the few who make it out of the camp alive), and Blair and Drew were basically Rose and Bernard just floating through all this mess but not really having a major play in how it all ended haha. Now if only they had a dog…..
Liked:
– So much death.
– Lail’s acting as a crazy psycho demon actually was solid. “WHERE’S YOUR CAMP SPIRIT!”
– Jessie Tyler vs Marco Polo bathroom scene. Creepy and well done I thought.
– I enjoyed all the flashbacks in this episode, especially Blair and Cricket’s.
– The twist with Garrett actually being dead. Damn they got me! I thought it was just crap writing because I mean how on Earth could he be alive. But I dismissed it, and then they surprised me. So yay for that.
– The final goodbye for Jessie and Garrett. Ahh yes, Townie and Braces. I liked it. A little mushy, but I liked it.
Disliked:
– Still many questions about how the demon got there, and other mythology stuff, but I’m assuming they didn’t want to reveal everything if they had plans for future seasons.
– Cliche dumb cops who don’t know what’s going on and get killed in a matter of minutes.
– What about Amy’s actual soul? She didn’t go into the water at the end, and really got zero closure for her character as a whole. At least we got closure with Locke.
– Them running around the whole episode and hiding. Then just one by one “sacrificing” themselves for literally zero gain.
– Blair and Drew basically sent all those officers to a watery grave. Did they really think they would be able to help without, idk, explaining the situation to them (like there’s a crazy demon going around in the form of a blonde girl and killing everything in its path).
Overall I’d give the show a 6/10. It had many flaws and many cliches but it was still entertaining and had its good moments. Until the next season I’ll leave you with this:
“Nothing happens by accident, kiddo.”- Jack Sykes
“Everyone dies sometime, kiddo.”- Christian Shepherd
August 31, 2016 at 2:03 pm #326964thedarkonedearie
ParticipantAlso worth noting that the original finale title was posted as, “Let Love Rule,” which I would have preferred. It would have highlighted the goodbye scene with Garrett and Jessie. Not sure why they ended up calling it, “She Talks to Angels.”
August 31, 2016 at 3:15 pm #326968MatthewPaul
ModeratorAlso worth noting that the original finale title was posted as, “Let Love Rule,” which I would have preferred. It would have highlighted the goodbye scene with Garrett and Jessie. Not sure why they ended up calling it, “She Talks to Angels.”
I believe “She Talks to Angels” was the song that played in the episode. Maybe “Let Love Rule” was originally going to be that song, but they changed it for whatever reason.
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