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August 2, 2013 at 3:09 pm #202896kfchimeraParticipant
wow slurpeez. I think you could be right, it would create some interesting depth to the story and parallels, even if they do not overtly call PP the Pied Piper, but say he had a hand in the Ogre Wars.
So I recently got a children’s picture book for my daughter about the Pied Piper, and it is a lovely version of the story to wash that nasty idea of a child murderer out–The Pied Piper’s Magic by Steven Kellog. In it the Piper ends up saving the kids from a nasty despotic ruler, and there’s even a love story mixed in. The pipe itself is magical and can transform things. So I’d still like it if they blend in the piper that he saves the lost boys, rather than Peter being an evil piper who stole them!
[adrotate group="5"]“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass
August 2, 2013 at 3:32 pm #202898runaroundmacyParticipantInteresting theory, Slurpeez! I really like that idea that PP is somehow involved in the Ogre’s War. It definitely creates this idea that he’s been around and manipulating worlds for centuries, and not just our own either, which makes him even creepier to me.
Side note: In regards to stealing children, there is a part of me that wonders if maybe PP thinks he’s doing them a favor? Who wouldn’t want to go to a land with no adults, with magic and no one to tell you what to do! Wendy was obviously excited to go, until she got there and was faced with reality. I definitely think that is his ploy to lure them, but what if he honestly doesn’t understand why anyone would want to leave?
Keeper of the Cheshire Cat’s smile, Baelfire’s sword, Snow’s backpack, Robin Hood’s bow, Ariel’s purse, Ariel’s smile, Henry’s heart, Belle’s shoe collection
August 2, 2013 at 7:41 pm #202912angiebelleParticipantI wonder exactly how bad Peter is going to be? OuaT has a knack for finding all those shades of grey. I have a feeling that whatever reason Pan wants Henry, it has something to do with his absolute faith in his beliefs. Neverland is all about believing.
I think Peter being a perpetual child who never grew up is probably also stuck in a state of immaturity and a lack of empathy which can be dangerous in itself.
August 2, 2013 at 10:51 pm #202915HappyEndingsSpectatorRemove my original post and left RG which is what I wanted the 1st me.
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— Adam Horowitz (@AdamHorowitzLA) August 3, 2013
August 2, 2013 at 10:56 pm #202916PheeParticipantThe fact that the Once version of Peter Pan is devious means he could be the one who started the Ogres’ War which led the children away from the parents and to their death on the battlefield. This would make Peter Pan the Pied Piper of legend who was responsible for the disappearance and/or death of a town’s youngest generation.
That would be so sinister!
By contrast, it’s very intriguing that Rumplestiltskin’s first act of magic was to save his son and all of the other children from dying on the battlefield by ending the conflict. In my opinion, this could foreshadow that Rumple’s final act of magic will also be a heroic one to save not just Henry but all of the Lost Boys being held captive in NL by PP.
Love, love, love this! To the point where I think I’ll actually be genuinely disappointed if this isn’t what they end up doing. It would bookend his Dark One-ness perfectly!
Side note: In regards to stealing children, there is a part of me that wonders if maybe PP thinks he’s doing them a favor? Who wouldn’t want to go to a land with no adults, with magic and no one to tell you what to do! Wendy was obviously excited to go, until she got there and was faced with reality. I definitely think that is his ploy to lure them, but what if he honestly doesn’t understand why anyone would want to leave?
Wouldn’t surprise me. Traditionally, PP is a kid who rejects the world of adults in favour of hanging out with fairies 24/7. Would stand to reason that he’d believe that every kid would prefer that kind of a life.
I wonder exactly how bad Peter is going to be? OuaT has a knack for finding all those shades of grey. I have a feeling that whatever reason Pan wants Henry, it has something to do with his absolute faith in his beliefs. Neverland is all about believing.
Which brings up an interesting parallel to GOAT and their fundamentalist beliefs too. They had unwavering belief in the evil of magic, and now they’re in the land that runs on belief and magic, and that land will shatter their own belief, when they discover they’ve been working for PP due to his unwavering belief. They could do some really interesting stuff with this, exploring the theme of belief from the characters’ different perspectives.
August 2, 2013 at 11:02 pm #202917kfchimeraParticipantYes the crash of the beliefs of Tamara and Greg and their “holy crusade” versus PP is the kind of train wreck I’m hoping to see!
“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass
August 2, 2013 at 11:07 pm #202919RumplesGirlKeymasterYes the crash of the beliefs of Tamara and Greg and their “holy crusade” versus PP is the kind of train wreck I’m hoping to see!
Agreed x 10000. How will it change them?? Will it change them??
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"August 3, 2013 at 12:09 am #202920runaroundmacyParticipantkfchimera wrote:Yes the crash of the beliefs of Tamara and Greg and their “holy crusade” versus PP is the kind of train wreck I’m hoping to see!
Agreed x 10000. How will it change them?? Will it change them??
^THIS. All of the above. I so can’t wait to find out about him.
Keeper of the Cheshire Cat’s smile, Baelfire’s sword, Snow’s backpack, Robin Hood’s bow, Ariel’s purse, Ariel’s smile, Henry’s heart, Belle’s shoe collection
August 3, 2013 at 9:48 am #202925obisgirlParticipant@caneofmrgold Belle is a series regular. We love her. And adore Emilie. Please expect to see her throughout the season.
— Adam Horowitz (@AdamHorowitzLA) August 3, 2013
August 3, 2013 at 12:09 pm #202933angiebelleParticipantHow many times does Adam have to keep telling distraught RumBellers that Belle isn’t going anywhere? lol Some of them almost seem to enjoy being miserable. Me- I’m a RumBeller with a lot of faith. 🙂
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