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"I could have the giant duck as my steed!" --Daniel Radcliffe
Keeper Of Tamara's Taser , Jafar's Staff, Kitsis’s Glasses , Ariel’s Tail, Dopey's Hat , Peter Pan’s Shadow, Outfit, & Pied Cloak,Red Queen's Castle, White Rabbit's Power To World Hop, Zelena's BroomStick, & ALL MAGICGlad you're anticipating March, @insidethetube ! I would expect some teases soon!
— Adam Horowitz (@AdamHorowitzLA) December 17, 2013
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
@OUATES @bobby221295 flashbacks in 311 we're consistent with timeline for both Hook and Snow
— Adam Horowitz (@AdamHorowitzLA) December 30, 2013
@OUATES that's by all of their story. And hook knows she is a fairy in 311 even if she denied it. In 303 they were desperate
— Adam Horowitz (@AdamHorowitzLA) December 30, 2013
@OUATES she doesn't know if her memories will survive the trip. She's never done it.
— Adam Horowitz (@AdamHorowitzLA) December 30, 2013
@OUATES and even if they DO survive trip she doesn't know what to tell Emma. Which is whole point of next scene with BF
— Adam Horowitz (@AdamHorowitzLA) December 30, 2013
@OUATES because her attitude in scene is she doesn't know what to do in either world. That's what's important. Sorry if u thght unclear
— Adam Horowitz (@AdamHorowitzLA) December 30, 2013
(sorry Adam but I kinda agree with the Twitter user. The flashbacks all felt wildly out of place)
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"@AngiBelle1 that scene was when they met. No relation to how long either was in Neverland.
— Adam Horowitz (@AdamHorowitzLA) December 31, 2013
Sorry Adam but the dialogue makes it super unclear.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"I think what Adam is trying to say is that Hook could have been on Neverland for ages (remember he was working for Pan) and could have heard about Tink in passing before she lost her wings. How powerful she was and how she breaks all. The fairy rules. It could have been a few years after she lost her wings when he actually met her in person.
"I could have the giant duck as my steed!" --Daniel Radcliffe
Keeper Of Tamara's Taser , Jafar's Staff, Kitsis’s Glasses , Ariel’s Tail, Dopey's Hat , Peter Pan’s Shadow, Outfit, & Pied Cloak,Red Queen's Castle, White Rabbit's Power To World Hop, Zelena's BroomStick, & ALL MAGICIt would surprise me if they don’t have a firm grasp on their own t-word, because they’ve probably got that thing planned out in minute detail. The problem is likely that they understand the grand scope of the t-word (and everything else to do with the mythology) much better than the viewers do. We have to fill in bits and pieces as we get them, whereas the writers might assume that something makes sense because of something else they already know, but the audience doesn’t. Just a few tweaks in dialogue here and there could clear it up and convey things better.
With Snow, have her say, “I don’t even know if I’ll remember who I am when I’m sent to this new world, but even if I do, how will I be able to convince her?”
With Hook, have him say, “I don’t care how many countless years we’ve been stuck here, I’m determined to find a way.”
At least this time when Adam was engaging with someone on Twitter, it wasn’t a bitter, snarky type conversation, and it ended like this…
@OUATES as I said. We're not perfect ! But we do our best !
— Adam Horowitz (@AdamHorowitzLA) December 30, 2013
@OUATES yep!
— Adam Horowitz (@AdamHorowitzLA) December 30, 2013
So maybe it’s something he’ll take on board and they’ll consider their choice of dialogue a bit more carefully in future?
I hope so, Phee. I feel like they wrote it with the casual viewer in mind, thinking “Ok, we need to remind them of this and that…. full circle moments….” and not realizing how shifts in the dialog imply various things.
It wasn’t even Hook’s dialog with Tink, so much as it was what he said to Smee, so this being the first time Hook meets Tink is irrelevant. “Now that we know…” Shouldn’t that be something Hook’s told Smee countless times? It could have come off better with Smee heaving a sigh and saying “I KNOW Captain, you told me that before,” and then Hook blaming this cursed land, and endless journey to find a way off etc.
Maybe it was their inexperience as showrunners, combined with the overly ambitious decision to stage Wonderland or maybe its’ just as you said Phee, it made sense to them based on knowledge of events we don’t have.
“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass
It wasn’t even Hook’s dialog with Tink, so much as it was what he said to Smee, so this being the first time Hook meets Tink is irrelevant. “Now that we know…”
I tweeted that to Adam. It wasn’t Tink and Hook it was Hook and Smee that really threw me. It sounded like Hook had JUST found out about the dagger from Bae. That’s what made my brain explode.
Either Bae was with Hook for a LOT longer than we thought or they didn’t think that one through.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"I agree- because they are the writers, they see the big picture- the way they intended the story to be. I think the problem is that often times things aren’t reading as well to the audience as the writers think they are. It’s like how when you try to edit your own work, you frequently miss your own careless mistakes because your mind sees what you intended and not what is actually there.
To me, it felt weird because the Tink and Hook scene came across as if Tink had been living there for years and Hook is just now arriving- obviously not the case since Hook arrives many years before Tink lost her wings.
So what Adam is telling me is that Tink established herself on the island with Pan and the Lost boys and did not encounter Hook or hear of him at all until this moment. Seems a bit farfetched, but oh well.
So what Adam is telling me is that Tink established herself on the island with Pan and the Lost boys and did not encounter Hook or hear of him at all until this moment. Seems a bit farfetched, but oh well.
I agree. And it makes about as much sense as Jane’s Rumbelle explanation for their flashback. Especially her “you can’t read into costume and makeup as indicators of timeline” when like…that’s a huge part of Skin Deep
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
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