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Yes, I am curious how they explain that RumBelle flashback in 311…Belle clearly knows who Rumple is memorializing. She asks how old he was. If she didn’t know, she wouldn’t be that specific. And we know she didn’t have any idea about a son until right before Rumple let her go.
[adrotate group="5"]Okay, maybe that scene took place long before the table scene in Skin Deep when they talked about Baelfire.
Okay, maybe that scene took place long before the table scene in Skin Deep when they talked about Baelfire.
But that wouldn’t make any sense…Belle seems to know who Rumple is talking about in that scene. In the Skin Deep scene, we get the impression that this is the first time Belle has brought up the idea of the son.
Okay, maybe that scene took place long before the table scene in Skin Deep when they talked about Baelfire.
Jane said that it was early on in Belle’s stay. In my theory on the Rumbelle flashback in the 3×11 main section, I posted all of Jane’s tweets about it but it still feels…like they made up the answer when fans started questioning it.
And how long is long before? Our best guess says that Belle was with Rumple for maybe 3 months.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"obisgirl wrote: Okay, maybe that scene took place long before the table scene in Skin Deep when they talked about Baelfire.
Jane said that it was early on in Belle’s stay. In my theory on the Rumbelle flashback in the 3×11 main section, I posted all of Jane’s tweets about it but it still feels…like they made up the answer when fans started questioning it. And how long is long before? Our best guess says that Belle was with Rumple for maybe 3 months.
I suspect this was prior to Lacey (because he’s also gruff with her), though even that makes little sense since in Lacey she still wore the gold dress. However, we could chalk that up to poor continuity – certainly nothing having to do with the writers – and move on.
It does make sense if you look at it this way. Here, in the FB, Belle isn’t going to push Rumple; it doesn’t matter to her at this point who he’s remembering – she just cares that he is. in Skin Deep, they are at a completely different point in their relationship. She found Bae’s clothes and she must have remembered their prior conversation; she kind of gently nudged Rumple to talk about who she probabaly at some point guessed was his son.
This is how I’m choosing to look at it, but it’s a bad job all around that so many fans are confused. The costumers need to do a much better job matching the outfits with the timeframes. Assuming this is prior to Lacey, there’s no way Belle should be in the blue dress…..and the spinning wheel thing is confusing too. Yes, there’s nothing to say that this is the same library Rumple gave her – it’s apparently not – but it’s amazing that ONCE could confuse so many people in such a short scene. Most Rumbellers were so excited for a FTL scen….and it ended up making many of them unhappy. What a shame.
But what I meant was, Belle’s dialogue to Rumple in this scene indicates that she already knows something about who he is memorializing. “How old was he?” suggests to me that she knows the person is a male child. Why would she just make this assumption? And the conversation during “Skin Deep” comes across as if this is the first time she’s brought up the topic of a child.
We don’t know what point Belle switched to the blue dress- I would think this scene takes place *after* “Lacey.” “Lacey” is immediately after she starts working for Rumple- the first couple days. I didn’t get the impression that the candle lighting conversation took place *quite* that early. She might have switched to the blue dress just after the events of “Lacey”- that’s a story we haven’t been told.
I took it as Belle fishing for information basically, which she later confirmed in that scene in Skin Deep.
Really for me the larger problem was that spending time on scenes for the casual audience to remind them of things gave me the feeling they’re sort of “done” with the mythology and backstory from the original premise of the story. I have this feeling they aren’t going to ever answer the little things now–because it doesn’t matter. There’s a new threat/curse situation going on, and we’ll probably NEVER learn these timeline type things because the writers probably never mapped it out in their heads either. Adam didn’t even “word of god” answer with a logical sort of response like “Smee just found out because Hook didn’t trust him earlier but yes, Tink was more newly arrived in NL than they.” Ok that’s logical based on what we already knew so no spoilers, but saying “oh nothing to do with the timeline”–another dodge.
Maybe I’m wrong and they’ll be revisiting things in future reveals that they’re strategically holding back but right now I just think the finale and interviews suggest they’re totally changing tracks, trying to stop the ratings slide with a new, maybe new viewer friendly approach.
“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass
But what I meant was, Belle’s dialogue to Rumple in this scene indicates that she already knows something about who he is memorializing. “How old was he?” suggests to me that she knows the person is a male child. Why would she just make this assumption? And the conversation during “Skin Deep” comes across as if this is the first time she’s brought up the topic of a child. We don’t know what point Belle switched to the blue dress- I would think this scene takes place *after* “Lacey.” “Lacey” is immediately after she starts working for Rumple- the first couple days. I didn’t get the impression that the candle lighting conversation took place *quite* that early. She might have switched to the blue dress just after the events of “Lacey”- that’s a story we haven’t been told.
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I think she saw the shawl/clothing (if that actually was Bae’s shawl, and it looks like a different material, then that is another continuity issue since Belle saw that for the first time in the Outsider; I’m thinking it was not the shawl, though) looked more like something a boy would wear.. so she could assume. I think you have to do a LITTLE bit of reaching to make this scene work, but not too much. I kind of think that we’re supposed to look at it like an impressionist painting – don’t get TOO close or you’ll miss the big picture.
The reason why I said pre-Lacey is because Rumple is really gruff with Belle. I get that he’s in no mood for conversation, but there’s no way he’d talk to her like that after the forest scene. Now maybe it’s the Lacey time period, but before Robin Hood and that trip; that makes more sense to me.
The more I think about it, the more I like the scene. Belle didn’t get put off by his attitude, she seemed to understand why he was being gruff….and in the end, he did open up to her a bit.
Considering that Adam and Eddie have said the second half of the season will feature “a compelling new form of storytelling”, I have a feeling not many of these questions will be answered any time soon.
i wonder what they mean by compelling new form of storytelling
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