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August 25, 2013 at 11:55 pm #206716PheeParticipant
So I think what you’re saying is that there is already a war going on between TeamRed (led by the RQ and Jafar as King and Queen) against the TeamWhite (led by Sultan but no Queen). Alice and Cyrus simply get caught up in it?
Well, I haven’t really thought about how far the conflict might go back, I’m just thinking within the context of the contained story they could tell in S1.
From what we’ve seen, it seems that RQ wanted Alice and Cyrus broken up for some reason. I’m assuming that reason is she wanted Cyrus for herself. Perhaps she’d tried in the past and he’d shunned her, using the excuse that he was a Genie and had a duty to perform in life and that prevented him from falling in love with anyone. Then he went and fell in love with Alice, and RQ was all, “Nuh uh, honey, I saw him first.”
With a Genie involved in the story, that instantly ties in the Agrabah gang, both Jasmine’s family, and Jafar. Aladdin and Jasmine were buddies with a Genie, even if not Cyrus in particular, maybe Genies are brothers in the sense that Dwarves are, so if Cyrus was in trouble, Aladdin and Jasmine get involved with trying to help out the brother of their friend. And Jafar hates Aladdin and Jasmine, so of course he’s on the opposing side. So that sets up the major players on each side for the game that’s gonna play out in present day, as they try to save Cyrus.
[adrotate group="5"]August 26, 2013 at 7:00 am #206721PriceofMagicParticipantIs OUATIW going to be more than one season?
All magic comes with a price!
Keeper of FelixAugust 26, 2013 at 7:24 am #206722JosephineParticipantThis sounding more like Once Upon A Time in Wonderland AND Agrabah. Do we even know if any of the other characters from Aladdin are going to make an appearance for certain?
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August 26, 2013 at 8:05 am #206723RumplesGirlKeymasterIs OUATIW going to be more than one season?
No idea. The way they talk about it sometimes it sounds like it is just going to be a mini series and they’ll move on to OUATin *new land*
But that’s really expensive to launch a new show every season.This sounding more like Once Upon A Time in Wonderland AND Agrabah. Do we even know if any of the other characters from Aladdin are going to make an appearance for certain?
We do not. Just casting calls that sounds a bit like those Agrabah characters.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"August 26, 2013 at 8:46 am #206728PheeParticipantIs OUATIW going to be more than one season?
They’ve said that if it gets a S2, it’ll be a whole new adventure with the same characters, and S1 will have a definite conclusion. I’m assuming the aim of S1 will be reuniting Alice and Cyrus.
September 1, 2013 at 2:15 pm #207476RumplesGirlKeymasterSo I’ve been re-reading Through the Looking Glass and in the 2nd chapter when Alice meets the RQ and is invited to play chess, as a White Pawn, the RQ lays out the game board and tells Alice what the squares, each square being a different part of the world. For a pawn to get to the other side is 8 squares, and when the pawn reaches the other side, it becomes a Queen. So, according to Through the Looking Glass, here are the lands:
Squares 1 and 2: the starting position for a pawn. A Pawn can move two squares the first time, and only the first time. I think squares one an two might be FictionalLondon and SB, respectively. We know that Alice starts present day in FictionalLondon and then moves to SB and Granny’s (we think).
Square 3: No information but you get to by railway. Could it be The Land Without Color? Rather steampunky. Also, this is a stretch, but railways are romanticized as symbols of long epic journey. We know that Grendel from [i]Beowulf[/i] is coming into play. And Beowulf is a very long traditional epic about the heroes journey
Square 4: This square belongs to Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dum. We know they are combining Wonderland and Through the Looking Glass and treating it as one adventure, so maybe this is Alice’s return to WL? Trying to find Cyrus?
Square 5: “mostly water” Anyone else think NL? I wonder if Ariel might pop back up…
Square 6: “belongs to Humpty Dumpty” Not a blessed clue what that means. But maybe another kingdom of some sort.
Square 7: “is all forest however one of the Knights will show you the way” my first instinct was RH but I’m not sure how that works for the t-word. I do think it will mean FTL and that the Knave will help Alice out here, especially if he’s from FTL. Also, in my head, Jefferson comes back for this.
Square 8: “we (Alice and the RQ) shall be Queen together and it’s all feasting and fun” Agrabah or Wonderland, wherever the RQ and Jafar have made camp. And it’s not feasting and fun, but an epic battle to save Cyrus.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"September 1, 2013 at 2:24 pm #207477JosephineParticipantIt’s all feasting and fun in the book until Alice knocks the Red Queen down, thereby capturing the king and winning the game. 😛
Good analysis, RG. How are you liking the book? I found myself liking it much more than Alice’s Adventures in Wonderland, but I have no idea why really.
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September 1, 2013 at 3:59 pm #207482RumplesGirlKeymasterIt’s good, though I feel like I’m reading too in depth in order to then come over here and talk at you all.
For example:
I love the Walrus and the Carpenter story, have since I was a kid. But then I got to thinking about it and some spoilers we know about. What if Grendel is with the Tweedles and he is the Walrus who has been eating heroes from under the sea?
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"September 1, 2013 at 11:59 pm #207508PheeParticipantSquares 1 and 2: the starting position for a pawn. A Pawn can move two squares the first time, and only the first time. I think squares one an two might be FictionalLondon and SB, respectively. We know that Alice starts present day in FictionalLondon and then moves to SB and Granny’s (we think).
Dunno that Alice ever goes to SB. Think it’s just the Bunny popping up in Granny’s, getting the Knave, and then they go down the rabbit hole in Granny’s floor, to FictionalLondon to bust Alice out.
Square 5: “mostly water” Anyone else think NL? I wonder if Ariel might pop back up…
This square must have mermaids.
Question is though, how many of these “squares” will need to be passed through in present day, or will some of them only be in flashback? I get the impression that Alice and Cyrus were off adventuring all over the place back when they were together, before RQ showed up and wrecked their fun. So maybe the “squares” in the game in the book are all about Alice and Cyrus’ previous adventures and the lands they went to, and the present day game will be a completely new one?
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