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May 10, 2016 at 6:55 pm #323395Bar FarerParticipant
Characters are more interesting when they have flaws. Moreover, they are more interesting when these flaws are acknowledged because then it creates organic conflicts. The problem with Hook and Emma and their relationship and why it feels so forced is because the writers don’t want to acknowledge any flaws with these two, individually and together as a couple, and when they do drop something about Emma making mistakes throughout the season, we have Snow White denying that and talking nonesense about love or hope.
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May 10, 2016 at 9:38 pm #323400RumplesGirlKeymasterScrewball Ninja came up with an interesting interpretation. Basically “OUAT is pushing redemption over justice. The villains take precedence over the victims, for better or worse.”
That’s it. That’s it right there.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"May 11, 2016 at 10:40 am #323435RumplesGirlKeymasterScrewball Ninja came up with an interesting interpretation. Basically “OUAT is pushing redemption over justice. The villains take precedence over the victims, for better or worse.”
That’s it. That’s it right there.
I making my notes for the spoiler podcast tonight and here’s proof of what Screwball is saying from the most recent Hot Seat
Was it originally planned for Regina to face more of her victims in the Underworld?
KITSIS: No. For us, we liked the idea that she had to get closure with her family. We loved having the victims that were there go up. A bunch of villagers we’ve never met before we didn’t think was as interesting as putting her in an arc with her sister, mom, and dad
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"May 11, 2016 at 10:46 am #323437thedarkonedearieParticipantCharacters are more interesting when they have flaws. Moreover, they are more interesting when these flaws are acknowledged because then it creates organic conflicts. The problem with Hook and Emma and their relationship and why it feels so forced is because the writers don’t want to acknowledge any flaws with these two, individually and together as a couple, and when they do drop something about Emma making mistakes throughout the season, we have Snow White denying that and talking nonsense about love or hope.
This is actually very true. We have seen Emma and Hook struggle, but not really as regular human beings. We got the dark one stuff but that didn’t really translate to just regular human flaws and characteristics. Sure they struggled this season with the DO stuff and then the UW and bringing Hook back. But I really feel like if they showed us some genuine struggle with just who they are as people, like with Rumbelle, we would find this couple way more interesting and relatable.
May 11, 2016 at 12:45 pm #323441oncegalBlockedI honestly feel like this show is building up to a team fight on the show. Grey’s Anatomy did it, Flash has done it, it would not surprise me if Once does it again next year.
May 11, 2016 at 1:04 pm #323442RumplesGirlKeymasterI honestly feel like this show is building up to a team fight on the show. Grey’s Anatomy did it, Flash has done it, it would not surprise me if Once does it again next year.
Like Emma vs Rumple? (or maybe SB vs Rumple?) I sorta think that’s where we are going.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"May 11, 2016 at 1:33 pm #323448nevermoreParticipantLike Emma vs Rumple? (or maybe SB vs Rumple?) I sorta think that’s where we are going.
Unfortunately, I do to. And I’m not particularly excited about it.
May 11, 2016 at 1:50 pm #323449oncegalBlockedI honestly feel like this show is building up to a team fight on the show. Grey’s Anatomy did it, Flash has done it, it would not surprise me if Once does it again next year.
Like Emma vs Rumple? (or maybe SB vs Rumple?) I sorta think that’s where we are going.
Nope based on the new sneak peek I think there’s two team fights coming in S6.
Evil Queen vs Captain Swan
Regina vs Evil Queen
Basically Adam and Eddy are gonna ignite the fandom wars on the actual show.
I can already guess what S6 will be like.
Regina becomes TEQ unwilling. While she’s the Evil Queen she’s gonna try to destroy Emma’s happy ending. Kill Hook which will put her in direct conflict with Emma. Meanwhile the Charming family will be trying to save Regina but at the same time protect Hook from The Evil Queen. The new sneak peek confirmed that her EQ side is telling her to kill Hook, well who do you think she’s gonna go after when she becomes TEQ? Emma will not let her touch her true love so there’s your conflict in S6.
Like I said it’s Civil War OUAT style.
May 11, 2016 at 3:43 pm #323456WickedRegalParticipantI honestly feel like this show is building up to a team fight on the show. Grey’s Anatomy did it, Flash has done it, it would not surprise me if Once does it again next year.
Like Emma vs Rumple? (or maybe SB vs Rumple?) I sorta think that’s where we are going.
Nope based on the new sneak peek I think there’s two team fights coming in S6. Evil Queen vs Captain Swan Regina vs Evil Queen Basically Adam and Eddy are gonna ignite the fandom wars on the actual show. I can already guess what S6 will be like. Regina becomes TEQ unwilling. While she’s the Evil Queen she’s gonna try to destroy Emma’s happy ending. Kill Hook which will put her in direct conflict with Emma. Meanwhile the Charming family will be trying to save Regina but at the same time protect Hook from The Evil Queen. The new sneak peek confirmed that her EQ side is telling her to kill Hook, well who do you think she’s gonna go after when she becomes TEQ? Emma will not let her touch her true love so there’s your conflict in S6. Like I said it’s Civil War OUAT style.
Don’t forget about Zelena….I’m quite sure she’s not going to let the Savior touch her baby sister, especially since she was willing to kill even her own true love to save Regina.
It’s probably gonna be WickedSisters vs CaptainSwan, but Zelena will also try to work with Snowing to save her sister from herself. Rumple will probably be stirring the pot, manipulating the situation for his own benefit, and once Regina comes to her senses….Season 6B will probably be Storybrooke vs Rumplestilskin, and I guarantee Belle is going to name her baby after Rumple!
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