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September 28, 2015 at 6:25 pm #308663RumplesGirlKeymaster
I think Emma (and maybe Merlin) managed to get around the whole heart thing.
[adrotate group="5"]"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"September 28, 2015 at 11:38 pm #308698SlurpeezParticipantSeriously? Amnesia, again? So overdone!
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
September 29, 2015 at 12:11 am #308701nevermoreParticipantOy, amnesia. So, there are a couple of ways to do plot twists. One is to have that moment/ending that totally yanks the rug from under your feet, and recasts the whole story in a new light. Examples of that might be Sixth Sense, Ender’s Game, or Planet of the Apes (the original novel). Another way, arguably harder to pull off, is to reveal your plot twist upfront, and then build up the emotional drama that leads up to it. If I recall correctly, Frank Herbert does it in the first Dune (other, more recent examples anyone?)
I think what we have here is that A&E really like that second narrative structure, but in order to pull it off keep going back to the same explanatory mechanism they’ve used before, without realizing that the efficacy of the plot twist itself is diminished if your audience knows how you are going to get them from A to B.
Which is the long and fancy way of saying, c’mon guys, that was just lazy. And for what it’s worth, I also think that Emma took away their memories. There’s this moment when she says “and for what you did to me, you shall me punished.” (groan; eye roll). What do y’all think the Scooby Gang did?
September 29, 2015 at 12:18 am #308702SlurpeezParticipantWhat do y’all think the Scooby Gang did?
Took away her freedon and made her crush someone’s heart.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
September 29, 2015 at 12:54 am #308706nevermoreParticipantWhat do y’all think the Scooby Gang did?
Took away her freedon and made her crush someone’s heart.
I agree with the first part. But why would they make her crush someone’s heart? Here’s an alternative theory: the way the dialogue has been going, they made her take Excalibur, which somehow resulted in a massive loss of lives. And Emma’s DORumple Tutorial kicked in and convinced her that listening to the “good guys” in the hopes of saving herself/her loved ones from the darkness was a profoundly selfish act, and only outsourced suffering onto others.
September 29, 2015 at 8:16 am #308713RumplesGirlKeymasterWhat do y’all think the Scooby Gang did?
Took away her freedon and made her crush someone’s heart.
Agree with the first and second, disagree with the whom. I don’t know if it was the Scooby Gang. I have some suspicions about our Camelot crew.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"September 29, 2015 at 9:08 am #308720Sci-Fi GirlParticipantDo we assume that Emma used a heart for this new, savior-free curse? If so, who’s heart did she use? Who did Emma love most?
I don’t think Emma used the Dark Curse, nine times out of ten, she may have just used the Sorcerer’s Wand again to take them all back to Storybrooke while also casting a memory curse.
I think this must be it. Because I noticed when they woke up in granny’s, they were all wearing Camelot clothing. (Fun! 🙂 )
So she used the wand to get them back. And a memory curse on it’s own would certainly be easy enough.
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September 30, 2015 at 2:49 am #308778MatthewPaulModeratorI suspect the reason they decided to go with amnesia again was because they wanted to gradually show Emma becoming the Dark Swan, but they also wanted to show off the Dark Swan ASAP. This is where the timeskip comes in, but they also didn’t want the characters remembering what happened during the course of those 6 weeks, because them realistically acknowledging what happened would spoil too much of the flashbacks they want to do from that timespan. Still, amnesia is a tiring trope on this show.
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