An explanation for Fast grow Magic Beans

[kfchimera]

I apologize if there is a thread covering this topic, but I did a search and it seemed like it came up in passing in other threads, but felt it would be off topic in those places.

So a lot of people complain that in Tiny, the giants state it takes hundreds of years to grow the magic beans. Then this episode David says we might have beans in a few weeks. I think the answer is that these are grown from a cutting, rather than a seed. Either the seed takes centuries to sprout, or what the giants meant is that it took centuries to selectively breed the portal opening type of bean. Similar to having a specific rose or apple variety–takes many years to get the traits, but once you have it, does not take years to grow.

If there is a better place this fits for discussion, please reply with a link.

[RumplesGirl]

Oh that’s a good explanation! (and also I don’t think there is a thread dedicated to this already, so you’re fine. Thanks for searching)

I had wondered if Greg was going to have something to do with the fast growing beans (his name and all…) but that was based on the fact that I thought Greg/Owen was a good guy but now, after S/B/and T I have no idea. I think he might be on the wrong side.

"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"

[Gaultheria]

The cutting shrank along with Tiny, I think, and if the mature plant is to scale, then it’d need less mass and energy. Or maybe the bean field is where all the new fairy dust is going.

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[Keb]

It’s also possible that the soil in Maine is better suited to the growing of beans than whatever soil they had in FTL in the clouds.

OR: Magic is different here, deary.

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[kfchimera]

Lots of great ideas… soil, magic difference, cutting, shrinking in size (but would the beans produced be super tiny then? ). The writers could easily have written something in with a line of dialogue. It’s kind of a plot hole, that I think came about because the writers wanted a reason there were no extra beans back when Rumpel and Bae used one. If the giants (like dwarves) have always had this duty to grow beans, then why weren’t they doing it back then? So whatever explanation they choose for why the beans grow fast in SB, also could have been used to explain why the giants didn’t have more beans back then (soil was rotten, magic rules, didn’t have any cuttings so started from regular beans, giant beans take forever to grow…).

“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass

[nonnie]

@KFChimera wrote:

Lots of great ideas… soil, magic difference, cutting, shrinking in size (but would the beans produced be super tiny then? ). The writers could easily have written something in with a line of dialogue. It’s kind of a plot hole, that I think came about because the writers wanted a reason there were no extra beans back when Rumpel and Bae used one. If the giants (like dwarves) have always had this duty to grow beans, then why weren’t they doing it back then? So whatever explanation they choose for why the beans grow fast in SB, also could have been used to explain why the giants didn’t have more beans back then (soil was rotten, magic rules, didn’t have any cuttings so started from regular beans, giant beans take forever to grow…).

In TINY, the leader said that they stopped trading with humans because they murdered, plundered and stole. Maybe the Giants had refused to trade the beans earlier ( Rumples times) and that is why there were no more beans. If they no longer traded with the fairies for what ever reason.. maybe they had run out…..

[wewerecursed]

@RumplesGirl wrote:

I had wondered if Greg was going to have something to do with the fast growing beans (his name and all…) but that was based on the fact that I thought Greg/Owen was a good guy but now, after S/B/and T I have no idea. I think he might be on the wrong side.

I still think he’s going to come into play with the crop. I don’t think he’s a bad guy at all, but in his head, Storybrooke is a town out of the Twilight Zone and he probably thinks everyone is nice on the outside, crazy on the inside like Regina. He probably thinks Tamara is just trying to help him find his father and expose the town. No, his intentions are not for the good of the town, but I don’t think if he knew what was really going on he would want to hurt anybody. I think Emma and company will find out about his father and offer to help, and in exchange maybe he’ll offer to help with the bean plant.

But as for the topic starter…yours is a very good explanation, so good in fact, I don’t even think the show is going to be that logical with it. 😉

[Myril]

A number of good ideas to explain, why the magic beans grow faster in Storybrooke, I like all of them.

Think the writers should drop a line about it soon, to put our minds at easy. It doesn’t need to be a big story moment and explanation, unless they want to turn OUaT into science fiction that is. A line, short dialogue, and be done with it.

A tweet or podcast mumble won’t do it 😉

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[Phee]

All they needed was for Snow or Charming to say, “That fairy dust is awesome fertiliser,” and I’d have been satisfied with that as an explanation. But they didn’t, and because I’ve been wondering since the moment they planted it how the hell they were gonna get it to grow quicker than the usual century it takes, I’m afraid I’m gonna need an official explanation, or it will continue to bug me. We’re not talking about some insignificant time discrepancy here, it’s 100 freaking years.

[kfchimera]

@Phee wrote:

All they needed was for Snow or Charming to say, “That fairy dust is awesome fertiliser,” and I’d have been satisfied with that as an explanation. But they didn’t, and because I’ve been wondering since the moment they planted it how *(please avoid obscenities)* they were gonna get it to grow quicker than the usual century it takes, I’m afraid I’m gonna need an official explanation, or it will continue to bug me. We’re not talking about some insignificant time discrepancy here, it’s 100 freaking years.

I agree! Even though it is a show about magic and fairytales, it helps to suspend disbelief when the show avoids apparent and obvious inconsistencies.

“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass

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