An Interesting Scoop About The Queen Is Dead

[RumplesGirl]

@LisaS wrote:

Neal/Baelfire is in Storybrooke by Episode 18 Brave, Selfless and True. I know this for fact because I’ve seen the pics from the set. See my post under Episode 18

I’ve seen those too. In fact, I think he’s in SB by 17, The Miller’s Daughter. So maybe the knock down drag out fight between Rumple, Bae, Emma, and even Henry won’t come until AFTER they deal with Cora/Regina/Hook?

[MatthewPaul]

This is the press release, and it can also be found on ABCMediaNet: http://www.abcmedianet.com/Web/dnr/dispDNR.aspx?id=021413_09

[lisas]

@RumplesGirl wrote:

@LisaS wrote:

Neal/Baelfire is in Storybrooke by Episode 18 Brave, Selfless and True. I know this for fact because I’ve seen the pics from the set. See my post under Episode 18

I’ve seen those too. In fact, I think he’s in SB by 17, The Miller’s Daughter. So maybe the knock down drag out fight between Rumple, Bae, Emma, and even Henry won’t come until AFTER they deal with Cora/Regina/Hook?

That’s a good possibility.

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[mich7]

@RumplesGirl wrote:

@jessista wrote:

“continues his quest”–does this mean that they aren’t reunited in Manhattan? Wouldn’t that mean that Neal isn’t Bae, and if so, where’s Bae?

My thought is that this means Rumple and Bae are reunited buy very briefly. I think the bigger reunion will come in this episode, and then given what Cora and Regina are up to, Rumple will have to go back to SB. The question is will NealFire follow Papa or follow Emma back to SB?

He could come to SB for Henry.

[antbee]

@RumplesGirl wrote:

The BF offers SW something for her mom?! WHAT? Oh Blue, you’re scheming goes even deeper than I thought!

I know! She really hasn’t been around at all this season and suddenly we read about some kind of surprise about a big evil, and then in the very next episode, the BF’s offering Snow an unconventional enchantment to save her mother. It’s very, very, very strange.

I guess if Cora is the reason why Snow’s mother is dying, then I guess it sort of makes sense that the Blue Fairy could step in since Eva isn’t dying of natural causes. I don’t know how the BF would know that though, and if she did why wouldn’t she expose Cora in the process. On the other hand, if Eva was dying of some kind of natural cause, then it seems strange that the BF would step in there when she wouldn’t even step in besides with Bae to stop the kids from being killed in the Ogre Wars.

Also, I hope I’m wording this properly, but if it were a natural death, I don’t know why she’d step in just to save one person unless she did have some kind of agenda. While it’s sad that a young Snow might lose her mom, why haven’t we seen her step in more often in FTL, and if she doesn’t have the power to help everyone, why does it seem like she’s picking and choosing since like others have pointed out she didn’t help Regina out of her situation with her abusive mom, and she didn’t do anything to stop Regina from enacting the Curse.

Sonequa Martin-Green as Tamara.

Now on the SwanFire front, I wonder if Neal makes up a lie about having a girlfriend/significant other because he sees himself as unworthy in Emma’s eyes, and that Tamara is from FTL too somehow. (Although I guess she could be both, but I’m thinking it’s only the latter.) Or Emma just assumes that there’s something there when there really isn’t. The more I think about it no matter how understanding a significant other might be, I don’t think that Neal would have her come to Storybrooke if she was just a regular outsider. It would be too dangerous for both Storybrooke residents no matter how much Neal might trust her and for Tamara if she were just a regular person who didn’t have any kind of skill and/or knowledge about how their world works.

[mich7]

@AntBee wrote:

Now on the SwanFire front, I wonder if Neal makes up a lie about having a girlfriend/significant other because he sees himself as unworthy in Emma’s eyes, and that Tamara is from FTL too somehow. (Although I guess she could be both, but I’m thinking it’s only the latter.) Or Emma just assumes that there’s something there when there really isn’t. The more I think about it no matter how understanding a significant other might be, I don’t think that Neal would have her come to Storybrooke if she was just a regular outsider. It would be too dangerous for both Storybrooke residents no matter how much Neal might trust her and for Tamara if she were just a regular person who didn’t have any kind of skill and/or knowledge about how their world works.

After seeing the pictures of her watching August turn back into a boy she’s probably FTL. And she could really be Neal’s girlfriend.

And since the Blue fairy is looking more and more like she may not be the good guy in all this I wonder if she has ulterior motives in turning August into a boy again….perhaps as a boy he no longer retains his memories of his adult life…and anything the Blue Fairy might of told him or he saw her do would have been forgotten.

[RumplesGirl]

@Mich7 wrote:

After seeing the pictures of her watching August turn back into a boy she’s probably FTL. And she could really be Neal’s girlfriend.

And since the Blue fairy is looking more and more like she may not be the good guy in all this I wonder if she has ulterior motives in turning August into a boy again….perhaps as a boy he no longer retains his memories of his adult life…and anything the Blue Fairy might of told him or he saw her do would have been forgotten.

Especially if it was Blue who told August about the dagger and what it looked like so he could draw it and show it to Neal. Rumple would need and want to know who knows about his dagger. Besides Cora, Regina and Hook, Bae and August are the only ones that we know of. And out of that whole list, August is the only one that doesn’t make sense. The Axis of Evil knows probably because of Cora and her connection to Rumple and their past. Bae knows because Rumple is his Papa. But August has no reason to know about that dagger, espeically since his childhood was LONG after Rumple became the Dark One. Someone had to tell him. Blue makes the most sense.

"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"

[mich7]

I’m just going to put this out there…I think I heard this on one of the official podcasts that they might be exploring the dark fairy that Snow got the fairy dust from that she and Charming defeated the trolls with at some point. Is it possible that the Blue Fairy is really a Dark Fairy in disguise.

ETA: If Snow had used this unconventional enchantment and Eva had lived then Regina would never have become her step mother and might not have ever gotten to the point of being pushed to punish her by casting the curse. Even Daniel might have lived and escaped with Regina since Snow would not have been there to tell Cora about Daniel. Was this the BF’s way of trying to stop the curse from happening…can she foresee anything or did she have contact with the seer?

With that being said we know that BF could have told Rumple about making a wardrobe from an enchanted tree and spared everyone the curse but she did not…so was she trying to keep Rumple from Bae all this time? I mean if Eva doesn’t die…the curse isn’t cast and Rumple doesn’t get to Bae the either. I don’t know it just all seems suspicious imo. That and the fact the BF is showing up in quite a few episodes after Manhattan.

[lisas]

Maybe Blue is a dark fairy in a disguise of being good, but what I can’t figure out is what did or does she have to gain by manipulating everyone like Snow,David, Rumple, Baelfire, Regina, Cora, Geppetto, August/Pinn, Emma, Henry, even Hook and even better question would be Why is she doing this ? If this is indeed that case.

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[Slurpeez]

The part that I find most interesting is this bit:

Meanwhile, in the fairytale land that was, the Blue Fairy offers Snow White an unconventional enchantment that could help save her dying mother.

A lot of us have guessed that Snow’s mother might not really be dead, but could’ve become the Lady of the Lake mentioned as the woman who raised Lancelot in 2×3. We know from an earlier spoiler from Ginny Goodwin that Eva is murdered (i.e. poisoned or some other unnatural death). But, it’s still in the realm of possibility that the BF manages to save Eva in some form. My other theory is that Eva could become a fairy (I know a bit out there), but you never know. LIke everyone else here, I can’t help but wonder about the BF. Why all this silence and seeming ineptitude on her part for most of S2 and then suddenly, she’s everywhere? She’s called “the original power” for a reason, so there must be something more than first meets the eye. However, I don’t think the BF is “evil” since Eddy and Adam have confirmed she is not, and they wouldn’t lie. So, the BF could simply be crafty, rather than outrightly evil, and want the greater good for the people of the EF. Who knows?

and while Mr. Gold continues his quest in New York to reunite with son Bae, Hook devises a plan to rid himself of a crocodile.

Also, regarding the Captain Hook spoiler, I think he’s going to be screwed over by Cora and Regina, who don’t want Rumple dead, but rather, want to control the Dark One with his dagger. Captain Hook, however, can use any weapon of choice to kill Rumple outside of SB, where there is no magic and he’s not bound by the dagger. He could kill Rumple and thus avoid becoming the next dark one. So, I think Hook could simply get in his enchanted ship, which is now made invisible thanks to Cora’s magic and is the fastest boat according to Eddy and Adam in the most recent official audio podcast, and sail for NYC, where Rumple is still trying to get through to Baelfire.

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