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October 19, 2013 at 2:16 pm #217157kfchimeraParticipant
Phee that would be the most brilliant way to bring Jefferson into it without bringing him into it.
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October 19, 2013 at 8:08 pm #217212PheeParticipantI know Anastasia Tremaine is supposed to be Cinderella’s stepsister, but could they maybe make her her bio sister instead?
Hmm. This is from Price of Gold
Emma: Um, Ruby. What about her family?
Ruby: Oh, um, she’s got a stepmom and two stepsisters that she doesn’t talk to.
Henry: Wait. Stepmom, stepsisters, and she’s a maid?
Emma: Henry. Not now.
I like the rest of your theory, though. And they could just claim that she was only their step sister in Cursed SB.
I was sorta thinking that if she was her bio sister, that’s just part of the story we’ve never heard properly, because she left the family when her father remarried and she wanted nothing to do with her new stepmother.
Phee that would be the most brilliant way to bring Jefferson into it without bringing him into it.
This is what I’m thinking, because surely he’s gotta get more of a mention in the WL show than just seeing his empty house? Didn’t that sign outside the Tulgey Wood say it had been secured for safe residence by the RQ or something like that? Maybe she did that so Jefferson had somewhere safe to live in WL?
October 20, 2013 at 8:22 pm #217450zlfh4ParticipantSo I just finished watching Once Upon a Time in Wonderland today and I came up with exactly the same theory about Anastasia being both the Red Queen and Cinderella’s stepsister. Her cameo would definitely make more sense that way. Now this just popped into my head. I wonder if Grumpy’s cameo means we will get to see more of Nova because maybe the Blue Fairy used both her own tragic love story as well as Silvermist as examples for why fairies should not fall in love. I would love to see a scene in either show where Nova confronts the Blue Fairy about her role in Grumpy deciding not to run away with her. Then the Blue Fairy would share giving either her backstory or that of Silvermist. Personally I am far more curious about the Blue Fairy’s background than Silvermist’s. However I could see Silvermist and Nova meeting up at some point and then Sil would tell Nova that the Blue Fairy was right then tell her story. I think both stories combined would serve to persuade Nova not to pursue her feelings for Grumpy. So a completely random crackpot theory but I really want more info about fairies, especially the Blue Fairy. Sorry about getting off-topic but I was reading some of the Sneaky Fairy thread or one of them earlier.
October 25, 2013 at 8:14 pm #218746Kelli AdkinsParticipantIt was confirmed that the Red Queen is Anastasia. I really like the theory about the Red Queen being Cinderella’s sister. Also, it does make since now why Cinderella was in the pilot episode, if she is Anastasia’s sister.
I couldn’t post the pictures here (for some reason), but I looked at Emma, Alissa, and Jessy (Anastasia, Grace, and Cinderella) and there is a slight resemblance between them. Or maybe I see the resemblance because I really want to see Cinderella being related to the Red Queen.
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Wicked Sisters | Rumbelle | Outlaw Queen | Captain Swan | Scarlet Queen | Knalice | Team Adam & EddyOctober 27, 2013 at 1:27 am #218967mewietParticipantI only just watched 1×03 tonight (I’m so behind on all my shows!) and I came up with exactly the same theory on the Anastasia/Red Queen/Cinderella’s step-sister theory due to the name, the Ashley cameo, and the fact that the 1997 movie was 20th Century Fox not Disney. Plus:
- In the Disney movies, Drizella’s iconic dress color is green while Anastasia’s is, yup, pink! Of course Anastasia/Red Queen’s dress is much lighter than the one in the Disney movies, but I think the point still stands. (And the show is aware of the pink/green dresses, as show in the screencap posted up thread.)
- In the Disney Cinderella sequels, Anastasia (not Drizella) is the one who gets the redemption arc through a love story with the baker. Since the show incorporates a lot of Disney nods, this could be one of them.
- In the Grimms’ version of Cinderella, the step-sisters cut off their own toes to get their feet to fit inside the glass slipper because they are that hungry for power and prestige. It wouldn’t be an unreasonable take to have that translate to Anastasia cutting off ties with her true love for the same reason.
Of course there are some things that stand in the way. Anastasia doesn’t look a thing like the Disney version. However, they have diverted from the Disney depictions before. Namely with Cinderella’s original Fairy Godmother, Maleficent, and with Aurora (though in the case of the latter, she’s also the daughter of the Original Sleeping Beauty, so I guess if/when they ever introduce her mother, she could look like the blonde Disney Aurora). Also, in “The Price of Gold,” in the screencap I mentioned earlier where we see the step-sisters from behind, both have long, dark hair. But as someone else said, even in a world without modern hair dye, magic can always work instead. (Cinderella, after all, got her own makeover.) Or, she could’ve been wearing a wig. And, the step-sisters line in TPOG (about how she doesn’t talk to them) implies that both step-sisters are in Storybrooke, but I suppose that could be twisted (she doesn’t have contact with any of her step-family, even though one isn’t local) if you really wanted to. (Also, “The Price of Gold” was the fourth episode of the first season. They might not have even been considering a spinoff at the time they filmed that scene/wrote that line, so it could also be a continuity error or retcon.)
It just seems odd to me that with their obvious knowledge of and nods to the Disney movies, they’d pick the name “Anastasia” for a character that had nothing to do with Cinderella.
March 8, 2014 at 10:31 pm #251136once_dudeParticipantAlthough we have no confirmation of this as of episode 9 I have no doubt that Anastasia is Cinderella’s step sister. The overbearing mother figure seemed to allude that her other sister was successful if I am remembering correctly.
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