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http://tvline.com/2012/10/27/once-upon-a-time-season-2-cast-ethan-embry/
Details are scarce, but we know that Embry will play a visitor to the ABC drama’s not-so-sleepy Maine burg. As fans of the show know, Storybrooke doesn’t get many visitors from the outside world – and those who are new to town (like Emma and August AKA Pinocchio) have some connection to the magical goings-on. So what’s Embry’s character’s deal? Perhaps the lifting of Regina’s curse makes it easier for newbies to cross town lines (even as it makes leaving problematic)? Or – dare we hope – might Embry’s character be Rumplestiltskin’s grown-up son Baelfire, heretofore seen only in flashback as a child? RELATED | First Look: Once Upon a Time Reveals Emma’s Past — and Henry’s Father? Embry’s career, marked by films like Can’t Hardly Wait and Empire Records, also includes roles on CSI: Miami, Drop Dead Diva, Fairly Legal and Brotherhood. Hit the comments with your predictions for Embry’s Storybrooke stint!
I have a theory, and I know that certain people will hate it because it ties in with the impostor theory. However, before I even saw this news about Ethan Embry, I was thinking about the show doing this type of storyline because of the spoiler out there about a non-FTL person coming to Storybrooke this season.
I was thinking that they could do it in a funny way like a one-off type of deal where a strange person comes in and leaves right away because everyone seems crazy in Storybrooke, but then I was thinking what if they go the opposite way since it doesn’t seem like a big deal that a non-FTL person visits Storybrooke if they’re going the comedy route.
Anyway, Emma still owes Rumple that favor, and we know it will come into play this season with most of us guessing that it has to do with finding Bae. So what happens if Rumple gets fooled by fake Emma and gets fake Emma to go find Bae. Fake Emma isn’t bound by magic to find the real Bae, and why would fake Emma want to help Rumple of all people. However, fake Emma can go hire a non FTL person to fool Rumple because the town boundary won’t affect Cora’s and Hook’s memories since they were never under the Curse in Storybrooke, and use the person that they hire to pump Rumple for important information to leave him and Belle vulnerable.
However, just like “Neal” suspecting something is wrong with fake Emma, “Neal” knows that there’s no way that this stranger is really Bae, so does he risk coming clean to protect a father that he resents possibly loathes right now and possibly blowing what kind of plan he’s trying to accomplish or does he just sit back and let it happen because he’s so resentful about his father. I think a little bit of both, but eventually I think he’ll reveal himself because he knows that this stranger’s life will be in danger if Rumple finds out the truth or when fake Emma and Snow don’t need him anymore.
[adrotate group="5"]For what it’s worth, Ethan Embry is the right age for the Barrett casting call…
A major recurring guest star role with an option for next season is being cast. A character named Barrett. He’s in his 30s, kind and smart, but also has a very dark side and has beliefs and a way of life that he will fight fiercely to defend.
I like your theory AntBee.
The thing that strikes me is that Embry doesn’t look anything like young Bae. His hair is lighter, pale complexion and blue eyes. I hate to say this, because I really want MRJ to be Peter Pan/Bae, but Embry’s features do remind me of Peter Pan. Important to note that Brent BARRETT is playing Captain Hook in the new Peter Pan play that’s touring with Cathy Rigby.
Keeper of Pandora's Box & The Yellow Brick Road.
I agree, TheGoldenKey. Altogether, his “look” and description remind me of Peter Pan, too.
How old was Peter in the story? A young boy, right? Since we know he can traverse between Neverland and our world, he could have been in our world when the curse hit. Maybe that prevented him from going back. That means he could have aged +28 years, which could explain the specific age the casting call was for. (They usually say 20-30s or 30-40s. But this was specific.)
Plus, Peter Pan is supposed to be a favorite fairy tale of the writers, correct? And we know that casting for “Barrett” was for a major recurring character. It fits, I think. Eager to hear other theories!
I could see him being Pan, the look would fit. But “a very dark side and has beliefs and a way of life that he will fight fiercely to defend,” doesn’t really sound like Pan to me, though I suppose a darker side of the character may have developed after being stuck in our world.
If we’re to assume that Ethan’s character comes from outside SB and is a storybook character, then an adult Pan is an obvious choice.
Could Barrett potentially be from our world but NOT a storybook character? Like, some sort of paranormal hunter type, who senses there’s something going on in that area and comes to try and stop it? Maybe someone who’s been keeping an eye on Neal and follows him there? Dunno that they’d consider introducing unrelated real world people at this stage of the game, (or ever) though, so that may be too far fetched of a theory. Just got to wondering about it because it’s not like Pan would have a wildly different “way of life” or beliefs to the inhabitants of SB, whereas someone from our world who thinks magic is evil would. Unless that’s relating to Pan having defended his magical way of life while being stuck in our world.
@Naomi wrote:
How old was Peter in the story?
Wikipedia sez…
The notion of a boy who would never grow up was based on J. M. Barrie’s older brother who died in an ice-skating accident the day before he turned 14, and thus always stayed a young boy in his mother’s mind.[2] The “boy who wouldn’t grow up” has appeared at a variety of ages. In his original appearance in The Little White Bird he was only seven days old. Although his age is not stated in Barrie’s later play and novel, his characterization is clearly years older. The book states that he has all of his baby teeth, and Barrie’s intended model for the statue of Peter that was erected in Kensington Gardens was a set of photos of Michael Llewelyn Davies taken at the age of six. Early illustrations of the character generally appeared to be that age or perhaps a few years older. In the 1953 Disney adaptation and its 2002 sequel, Peter appears to be in late childhood, between 10 and 13 years old. (The actor who provided the voice in 1953 was 15-year-old Bobby Driscoll.) In the 2003 film, Jeremy Sumpter was 13 at the time filming started; by the end of filming he was 14 and had grown several inches taller. In the movie Hook, Peter is said to have left Neverland many years earlier, forsaking his eternal youth and ageing normally. When remembering his buried past, Peter is shown as a baby, and little boy, and also a near-teenager, suggesting that the ageing process does not entirely stop in Neverland until puberty or just before, or that Peter aged a little bit every time he left Neverland to come to the real world. When Peter says, “I remember you being a lot bigger,” in the final duel, Hook answers, “to a 10-year-old I’m huge.” He is portrayed by Robin Williams, who turned 40 during production of the film.
…so they could make him anything up to an early teen before he stayed in our world and aged to mid 30s.
Since we know he can traverse between Neverland and our world, he could have been in our world when the curse hit. Maybe that prevented him from going back.
Cool idea, that’d make sense.
@AntBee wrote:
http://tvline.com/2012/10/27/once-upon-a-time-season-2-cast-ethan-embry/
So what’s Embry’s character’s deal? Perhaps the lifting of Regina’s curse makes it easier for newbies to cross town lines (even as it makes leaving problematic)? Or – dare we hope – might Embry’s character be Rumplestiltskin’s grown-up son Baelfire, heretofore seen only in flashback as a child?
I REALLY hope this guy isn’t Bae. He looks a little too goofy to play him. Peter Pan maybe, but not Bae.
I wonder if he knows Neal and goes to SB with him?Cool idea, Dorothy. And I agree – I don’t see Bae in him at all.
Maybe Peter Pan sent the white bird to the Mystery Man in 2×01 (if that man turns out to be Baelfire)? On a related note, I wonder if they plan to bring in the whole troop of Lost Boys along with Peter into the story at some point.
Also, just thinking out loud: but if Peter was trapped in our world, maybe it was because Hook was involved somehow. If that’s true, then it could explain why this Peter/Barrett character might have “a dark side” and want to seek revenge.
I think it would be incredibly evil to force the boy who never wanted to grow up to, well, “grow up” by imprisoning him here.
Phee wrote: Could Barrett potentially be from our world but NOT a storybook character? Like, some sort of paranormal hunter type, who senses there’s something going on in that area and comes to try and stop it? Maybe someone who’s been keeping an eye on Neal and follows him there? Dunno that they’d consider introducing unrelated real world people at this stage of the game, (or ever) though, so that may be too far fetched of a theory. Just got to wondering about it because it’s not like Pan would have a wildly different “way of life” or beliefs to the inhabitants of SB, whereas someone from our world who thinks magic is evil would. Unless that’s relating to Pan having defended his magical way of life while being stuck in our world.
Yeah, I was wondering if they would go there. I’m not sure how I would feel about a twist, along the lines of the-outside-world-discovers-Storybrooke. If it’s just one or two characters, I could maybe see it working (for example, if the writer of the book turned out to be “real-world” character, or if Henry’s father turned out to be a “real-world” character). Otherwise, I think it would make the show too bloated. All the drama between the characters in Storybrooke would probably seem less important if the real world was bearing down on them.
@Naomi wrote:
All the drama between the characters in Storybrooke would probably seem less important if the real world was bearing down on them.
Or it might give SB a bigger sense of urgency to go back to FTL. They could start worrying about what might happen if the outside world started noticing a town that no one knew existed, and someone came in to investigate and saw something that they shouldn’t have.
As for Barrett being described as “someone with a way of life that he wants to defend”, it gives me the feeling that he might be another morally ambigous character. What kind of lifestyle does this guy live that he feels he needs to fight to keep it?
@Naomi wrote:
Yeah, I was wondering if they would go there. I’m not sure how I would feel about a twist, along the lines of the-outside-world-discovers-Storybrooke. If it’s just one or two characters, I could maybe see it working (for example, if the writer of the book turned out to be “real-world” character, or if Henry’s father turned out to be a “real-world” character). Otherwise, I think it would make the show too bloated.
Yes, that’s a good word for it, “bloated”. If they did something like this, I wouldn’t want it to mean that suddenly anyone and everyone from outside would be bombarding the town, so it’d have to only be a select someone, so it didn’t get out of hand.
@Dorothy wrote:
@Naomi wrote:
All the drama between the characters in Storybrooke would probably seem less important if the real world was bearing down on them.
Or it might give SB a bigger sense of urgency to go back to FTL. They could start worrying about what might happen if the outside world started noticing a town that no one knew existed, and someone came in to investigate and saw something that they shouldn’t have.
That’s what I was thinking, yeah. If there were one person who was a real world character, with the desire to expose SB to the world in the hopes of destroying their magical haven, then that could mean the SB inhabitants would all have to band together. I know there’s an understanding between the good guys and the bad guys right now, but if there was an outside threat, the good guys may be forced to employ some of the tactics of the bad guys in order to protect the whole town, which could be an interesting dynamic.
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