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I think Zelena controls Rumpel’s use of magic. But she does not control his mind. Rumple actually hers. Let’s suppose Rumple ended up in Oz, with Zelena in control. Rumple is now worlds away from his family. No magic, no power. No way to be reunited.
Zelena. Why on earth would Zelena want to put everyone back in Storybrooke? What’s there for her that she didn’t find in Enchanted Forest, or in Oz. she could have destroyed Regina in EF if that was her goal. And why on earth would she put her curse in jeopardy by allowing Emma to return?
Rumple. Rumple would want everyone back in Storybrooke. Rumple would want to be as close to Belle and Bae as possible, and now he is. Rumple would want the savior to return, and she has. Everyone is in place for the curse to be rebroken, and for Rumple to be reunited with Bae and Belle. ( except for that pesky where’s Neal deal)
It would be really easy for Rumple to control Zelenas actions. “Why did you choose Regina over me?” “Ah because she is stronger willed than you are, Dearie. You could never have cast that curse. You couldn’t even recast it today through blood magic, because it requires Regina’s blood, and you could never get Regina’s blood.” “Ha! You think I can’t recast that curse? Watch me!”
And now, here they all are, back together in Storybrooke. Rumple now has to get Zelena to reveal to his family that he is indeed alive, and that he is with her. He knows they will find him.
“You should never have brought me back.” Ah, but isn’t he exactly where he wants to be?
[adrotate group="5"]It would be really easy for Rumple to control Zelenas actions. “Why did you choose Regina over me?” “Ah because she is stronger willed than you are, Dearie. You could never have cast that curse. You couldn’t even recast it today through blood magic, because it requires Regina’s blood, and you could never get Regina’s blood.” “Ha! You think I can’t recast that curse? Watch me!”
And being her mother’s daughter, if someone tells her she can’t do a thing, she is SO gonna do the thing.
“You should never have brought me back.” Ah, but isn’t he exactly where he wants to be?
Hmmm, that’s sort of a loaded question IMO. On the one hand, we’ve seen him move worlds to get back to his son before, so sure, it’d be fitting for him to strive to get back to Neal (and Belle) again. But on the other hand, he seemed perfectly willing to accept his fate in 311, because he felt it was the price he had to pay. He’s got enough experience under his belt now to know that messing with the fates and trying to avoid paying your price will mess you up, so would he accept that he should stay away, so as not to bring any more doom and gloom into the lives of his loved ones?
That being said, I’m sure that when Zelena brought him to SB, he wasn’t exactly bummed about the prospect of seeing his loved ones again, and if it wasn’t his doing in any way that he’s back there in their general vicinity, then his hands are clean and he won’t have to risk paying a price for the magic that makes that reunion possible.
I see your point Phee, but here’s another possibility. Let’s say that Rumple and Zelena have been together for a year. Let’s speculate that something has happened to Bae in the missing year in enchanted forest. Let’s say Bae’s life is in danger. That unless Rumpel intercedes in some way Bae will be killed or taken to a new land where he will never find happiness.
Wouldn’t Rumple move worlds to find a way to get Neal out of EF and bring him to a safe place, storybrooke?Possibly Rumple is working not to free himself, but to free Bae.
That unless Rumpel intercedes in some way Bae will be killed or taken to a new land where he will never find happiness. Wouldn’t Rumple move worlds to find a way to get Neal out of EF and bring him to a safe place, storybrooke? Possibly Rumple is working not to free himself, but to free Bae.
total reverse parallel of the first season where Rumple moved worlds to get to Bae. Now he moves worlds to get Bae OUT of the EF?
Interesting.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"I see your point Phee, but here’s another possibility. Let’s say that Rumple and Zelena have been together for a year. Let’s speculate that something has happened to Bae in the missing year in enchanted forest. Let’s say Bae’s life is in danger. That unless Rumpel intercedes in some way Bae will be killed or taken to a new land where he will never find happiness.
Wouldn’t Rumple move worlds to find a way to get Neal out of EF and bring him to a safe place, storybrooke?In that case, yes, I can see Rumple wanting to take action if either Neal or Belle were in danger and there was some way he could save them. At the same time though, he’d know that whatever he did, if magic were involved, there would be a price, and it could be his price that he’d try to save them and they’d end up dead instead. So it’d be risky, but I could certainly see him trying to craft some way around it if it meant trying to protect them.
My own headcanon right now though is that Neal was exempt from the new Curse somehow, because I reckon that’s gonna be him in the hood in SB, and FTL costume + in SB = that person evaded the new Curse and got there by some other means, so if that person IS Neal, then I’d think he’s pretty much in control of where he is and how he got there, and hasn’t had any aid from Rumple scheming. And Belle DID get caught in the new Curse, so if one of them did and not the other, then it doesn’t really work that Rumple had something to do with the Curse in order to protect them, because he’d have ensured that the Curse didn’t miss one of them, and he’d also have ensured that Zelena didn’t end up in either of their general vicinities.
My brain is getting tied in knots. LOL I’m ready for the next ep and some more facts to work with now please.
Am I mistaking things, or was the reason the first curse could be broken because Rumple wrote that in. (I thought that was discussed when Pan was trying to recast the curse). So what would be the exit clause of this one? If it is a recast of the same curse then it would have to be Emma, right? And while this might feed into all of the shipping wars, I don’t think the fate of Storybrooke is going to rest on which guy she decides to have true loves kiss with in the season finale (if that happens at all).
So again what would the exit clause be? Did Rumple sneak something in again? Does the Witch only want the curse long enough to get what she needs (which right now seems to be courage, heart and brains….not to mention Snow’s baby?)
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