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I don’t think the reference to Nepal was just a geographical error. Everything I read was way too specific that lemurs are ONLY found in Madagascar for that. The writers could have just as easily said he enjoyed his time in Madagascar the most because of the lemurs. I agree that the reference to lemurs has to do with the beliefs about their ghost like qualities and the myths about being the spirits of dead ancestors. I am actually wondering of maybe August might be the reincarnated spirit of EQ’s father? Regina said that August seemed familiar to her when she saw him. And the legend of the lemurs says that they are the spirit of ancestors who were mocked while alive or killed in a cruel fashion. Her father was definately killed in a cruel fashion. Not sure if he was mocked while he was alive. It sounds like EQ’s mother wasn’t a really nice lady so maybe she mocked him when he was alive. It did seem like he really loved her though and he knew about the curse and was trying to talk her out of it. Maybe he has come back to try to help Emma break the curse so that he can free Regina from it?
[adrotate group="5"]@ rumplegoldfan: While certain kinds of lemurs are only found in Madagascar and a few other Indian Ocean islands, there is another kind of primate in south-east Asia called the Sunda Flying Lemur. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunda_Flying_Lemur I know that type of lemur isn’t indigenous to Nepal, but maybe the word lemur is used more broadly than previously thought. I’m not a primatologist, so I can’t say for sure. But, you could be right about it not just being a geographical error. Maybe August was simply misleading Ruby to inspire her adventurous side and get her to quit Granny’s diner to work for Emma (thereby consequently finding the box).
I do find the idea of lemures from Roman mythology to be quite interesting. Maybe the writers of episode 15 were trying to tie together Western mythology with Eastern faiths by mentioning Nepalese temples. Since August appears to be so widely traveled, maybe he is into universalism. He likes to talk about how water is important to all faiths. I’m not sure what he is getting at, but maybe he is creating a new mythology because he is a writer. I’m not sure how that connects to SB, FTL, or his agenda, but it makes for an enigmatic character.
As for August being the reincarnated spirit of Regina’s father, it’s an interesting thought, but one I doubt. Weren’t lemures in Roman mythology considered vengeful? Regina’s father didn’t strike me as ever being vengeful, even right before he was about to be sacrificed by his own daughter. He seemed to be loving her even in her murderous evil moments.
Finally, based on some spoiler information, I have to agree with another ongoing theory about August’s identity. Based on episode 20’s title The Strager, and on set photos of Pinocchio from that episode, it seems more and more likely that the mysterious stranger (aka August) is Pinocchio (unless the episode title The Strager is meant to be a red herring). The idea that August always tells the truth, but then went on to mislead Red about there being lemurs in Nepal, agrees with the Pinocchio story line. Although Pinocchio was always supposed to tell the truth, he actually often lied, which is why his nose grew long. http://storybrooke.net/photos/thumbnails.php?album=178
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
What is AWB is Regina’s long lost brother? Perhaps their mother was so evil he couldn’t stand it and decided to run away as a child but Regina thought she could change her(her mother) and decided to stay but instead she herself has grown into this evil person we know now.
Oh, wow. I hadn’t thought about August saying that he doesn’t lie but then lying anyway because he is Pinocchio. Pinnochio was my first theory for who AWB was but then I went off on several tangents. Honestly this is driving me crazy. I spent a good part of yesterday researching lemurs and Nepal trying to come up with ANYTHING!! What I don’t get with the Pinnochio theory is why would EQ say that AWB seemed familar to her? That would lead me to believe that he would have to have been someone who was close to her in FTL. And aside from the fact that in the original (Disney version anyway) story version of Pinnochio, he didn’t spend any time hanging out with an EQ, we saw Pinnochio hard at work with Gepetto creating the wardrobe right up until the time the curse with inacted. This means that Pinnochio wouldn’t have spent any time with the EQ in FTL so he wouldn’t seem familiar to her. I would also assume that Regina knows everyone in Storybrooke so although some people are saying that he might have been in Storybrooke the whole time, I don’t think that’s the case. So he would have to be someone the EQ knew well in FTL to seem familiar to her in Storybrooke. I keep going back to the lemur legends of them being the spirits of dead ancestors.
I really like Nick’s theory (the one that appears in the podcast blog for “Red-Handed”) that August is Pinnochio for a number of reasons. First, the idea that Pinnochio’s wanderlust led him outside the kingdom before the curse went into effect explains why we haven’t seen him in Storybrooke, why he was able to grow up, and why he would have been able to write Henry’s book. After all, he lived in Fairytale Land and knew everything that had happened up to the point when he was helping Geppetto build the magic tree/portal. Second, when Regina saw August for the first time in Storybrooke, she didn’t know who he was but did notice that there was something familiar about him. Since she presumably knew Pinnochio when he was a boy, the grown-up version probably resembles him in some way. As Nick pointed out, too, he looks to be the age Pinnochio would be 28 years after the curse. He might even be the seven-year-old boy that found Emma, particularly since he knew that Snow White and/or her baby would be transported somewhere when placed in the tree. He probably also knew that the baby was going to be the savior, so it was vitally important that she be found and made safe. It makes sense that he came to Storybrooke when he did, because he knew that something was supposed to happen 28 years after the curse was enacted. There would have been no point in him coming earlier, because everyone was still living in the fog Regina put them in, and Emma was the only one who could break the curse. Maybe he came to start adding to the book now that he knows that Emma is there to change things and that the battle is about to begin…?
I always thought that the Stranger was on the outside of Storybrooke and wasn’t able to get in until Emma visited and time resumed. Though i guess we don’t really know that.
@ hjbau: I think only those who were cursed couldn’t leave or enter SB, because Henry was clearly able to leave and enter SB. Emma arrived, and she wasn’t under the curse. I think Emma coming simply started time again. August could have possibly visited SB even before Emma came. He implied as much in the diner scene when he hinted he’d come to SB for inspiration. It makes me think he’d been there before. Regina also said he was familiar. Yet, we still need more information.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
IMHO, I totally think August is Pinocchio… I don’t know how to explain why Pinocchio has red hair in Fairy Tale Land, and dark hair in StoryBrooke, but everything else makes sense to me…
The wardrobe that Emma was placed in was made with wood from an enchanted tree… I bet Pinocchio was also made from this wood… When Fairy Land came under the spell, Pinocchio was sent to “our world” just as he was, a seven year-old-boy…
Just like Emma, to keep him safe from the spell, he didn’t just wake up in StoryBrooke, he was sent elsewhere, near the same place Emma popped up… Hence how a 7-year-old boy found her in the woods when she was a baby…In the legend of Pinocchio he always liked to tell stories. Stories that got him into trouble because he always tried to convince people they were real. I bet once he popped up in “Our World” he tried telling people the story of the Evil Queen and the curse and people got mad at him… This prompted him to write them all down in a book, “Once Upon a Time…” Which would explain how he knows so much about the book, and why he came to StoryBrooke at the right time… He knew he would have to go when he knew Emma would reach the right age and return….
I got to this conclusion a few ways… 1. August said he doesn’t lie. 2. To make sure he doesn’t lie, he always answers questions by being very vague… EXAMPLE: What’s in the chest? Something I need to do what I came here to do…. What are you doing here? Visiting. Have you been to StoryBrooke before? I didn’t say that…
What really helped me figure this out, was when I read in a previous post that we needed to pay attention to how he talks about Lemurs with Ruby…
He said his favorite place to visit was Nepal. They had nice people. They have these prayer temples in the mountains that are overrun with Lemurs… Lemurs are known as “the ghost primates”… So I think he meant, metaphorically, lemurs = ghost… Prayer temples in Nepal that are overrun with ghost… Then Ruby asks what are lemurs and he answers vague, but true again… They are little animals with eyes that reflect light…. True, but vague… I wondered why he wouldn’t give a better discription, like they are little monkeys with fluffy tails… Then I read, that although Lemurs are primates, they are NOT monkeys, they are prosimians… So, to make sure he isn’t lying to Ruby, he can’t give a more discriptive answer that wasn’t true…
3. August had a fascination with water… If he was made from wood, wood comes from trees, most important thing to a tree would be water right?
4. August seems to relate to Henry easily. Henry is trying to convince someone that his stories are true… That is what Pinocchio use to do…
5. August said in this week’s episode that he was “here for Emma.” To help Emma believe… He wants Emma to believe to break the curse.
6. August = Magestic , Wayne = Craftsman … Magestic Craftsman…
Because he was a child when he came over and probably got to choose his own name, or was adopted or something Booth could have either been chosen by him or given to him by his adoptive family….Uh, the origin from the name Wayne is from wagon makers. 😯 Magestic Craftsman is a nice reference.
I see all your arguments and I think you’re right. I just personally hope he’s not Pinocchio, because I never liked the story … (or rather the Disney film, never actually read the book)
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