Bae not Rumpel’s real son?

[the_savior]

So, I was watching this episode again and one of the guards mentioned that Bae might not even be Rumpel’s son because Bae was braver than him. I know this is probably because he was mocking him, but he also mentioned that Bae was a bastard.

So does this mean that Rumpel had a wife because he got her pregnant? Is Bae even his son?

What do you guys think?

[darcyfarrow]

I think it’s just an insult–the ultimate insult a man can receive, since it questions his very manhood and places his relationships in jeopardy. We’ve seen nothing of Rumple’s marriage and no reliable source has yet commented on it, so for now I’d say we should reserve judgment. Besides, if there was something to the statement, Regina probably would’ve heard about it at some point and would’ve made a dig about it. Instead, she doesn’t seem to even know Rumple had a son, which suggests to me that the remark was just something the guard made up on the spur of the moment. If it had become a public rumor, it would have become part of the Rumple legend and Regina would’ve heard it.

Even if it were true, it doesn’t seem to have affected Rumple’s relationship with Bae. I don’t think anyone could say he loves the boy any less.

[hjbau]

I think it is possible that Bae is not the Rumpel’s son. Like he went off to war and she left him because he ran and people died and Rumpel didn’t like that so he took Bae and killed the mother. All of that was hinted at as being possible, but we don’t know if any of it is true. It is just as likely that the mother just left him when she was pregnant with Bae and then Rumpel took Bae from her. It isn’t really clear.

It has been centuries since Rumpel became the dark one so i don’t really think that the fact that it is not common knowledge that Rumpel had a son before he was the dark one means anything. Very few people would have known Rumpel before he was the dark one and most likely everyone would have become aware of him after.

[the_savior]

I’m not judging his feelings for Bae, just curious in if it were true if Bae’s parents would be revealed, or if he is, but is a bastard child, how that effects the Rumpel storyline. 🙂

[antbee]

I agree with darcyfarrow that it was probably just the ultimate insult being used against Rumple to show what kind of people were in charge at that time, and to somewhat justify why Rumple would strike them all down like he did at the end of “Desperate Souls”.

The only way I think it could be of importance is if the powers that be felt bad or were pressured because of the criticism they’ve gotten about their portrayal of the foster care system and adoptive parents, and have the viewers find out that Rumple knows Bae isn’t his biological son, but not care anyway. Perhaps he already knew that it wasn’t possible he wasn’t Bae’s real father like in hjbau’s theory, but since he raised Bae from birth, he felt like he was Bae’s real father.

I’m guessing they won’t care that much though and just have it be fact that Baelfire is Rumple’s biological son.

[hjbau]

The thing is Rumpel never denies any of it so i tend to believe that it is all true. I think he ran and people died. I think that Bae is not his. I think that Bae’s mother left Rumpel. I think that Rumpel killed her. I think it is possible that they may just never go into that story though. They could go either way. Leave it open or explain it. It is difficult with Rumpel because the actor is not very deep with the emotion he just does superficial emotion like he is sad oh and that is all there is to it. So maybe Rumpel is just sad that Bae’s mother is dead and did not hesitate and look done because he was involved in her death. The body language read was that there was more to that story and that Rumpel was involved or knows more then he was saying, but that may just be not that great acting or the writers haven’t even decided.

[eternalflame]

Until it’s confirmed by the show, I’ll assume that Bae is his. Those comments were made by the evil knights who took innocent children to war and who beat Rumpel in front of his son. I’m not sure if they’re completely reliable. And the Dark One was only taunting Rumpel so that he would stab him with the dagger. I think RC even gave an interview confirming that’s what happened. They were just taunting him.

I also highly doubt that Rumpel killed Bae’s mother. The man was too afraid to fight in a war, so I don’t really see him killing his wife. Pre-Dark One Rumpel wasn’t the fighting kind at all.

[Daniel J. Lewis]

@EternalღFlame wrote:

Until it’s confirmed by the show, I’ll assume that Bae is his. Those comments were made by the evil knights who took innocent children to war and who beat Rumpel in front of his son. I’m not sure if they’re completely reliable. And the Dark One was only taunting Rumpel so that he would stab him with the dagger. I think RC even gave an interview confirming that’s what happened. They were just taunting him.

I also highly doubt that Rumpel killed Bae’s mother. The man was too afraid to fight in a war, so I don’t really see him killing his wife. Pre-Dark One Rumpel wasn’t the fighting kind at all.

I’m not sure if the theory that Rumpel killed his wife makes much sense. We’ve already seen that Rumpel isn’t willing to kill those he loves. That’s why he needed Regina to cast the Dark Curse. He didn’t want to kill any of his loved ones. If he did, then he would have killed Belle.

[hjbau]

Like i said i agree that none of it has been confirmed, but when it came down to it Rumpel didn’t deny any of it even in front of Bae which makes me think based on the very little information we have that it is all true until we are told otherwise. And we don’t know if Bae’s mother was a loved one. We don’t know anything at all about her except she is dead.

[mickey]

If the actor, as you put it here, is not deep with emotions, then who is.
I’ve always thought that when Rumple told Bae his mother was dead he was lying. He just didn’t want the boy to investigate any further or start looking for her, and by saying so he stopped this conversation. That’s how I interpreted the scene, but I guess we have to wait for writers’ explanation. I don’t think anything so far suggests he killed her though.

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