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July 3, 2014 at 7:26 am #276021
Rainbow
ParticipantBecause that would mean the characters (read: writers) would have to recognize that Neal was a true hero.
The Charming line at the ‘coronation’ ceremony of “we name him for a hero, someone who saved every one of us” isn’t the characters recognising Neal was a hero?
They named him a hero, because of his death, bc he accepted being separated from his father, although from what i saw before that, Rumple had lucid moments and there would be no need to separate them for rumple to know who was the witch, so Neal should have known aswell who she was( better not say anything logic about this story), but they dont know who sent the message, David was not refering to the message part, was talking about the death.
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July 3, 2014 at 7:43 am #276023Rainbow
ParticipantI think RG is referring to the fact that Neal is the one who sent the message, no one knows that. They just know he died so Rumple can tell them about Zelena. Which makes me go back to Rainbow post, why was Neal aware of Zelena pre curse but not aware of Zelena post curse. I understand erased memories. But if Neal can hear Zelena inside of Rumple (he was able to removed himself from Rumple) in Enchanted Forest, shouldn’t he hear Zelena in StoryBrooke….. did I just fall into another plot hole, can someone save me with logic and rationale….. 2nd question: How was Neal able to separate himself from Rumple physically without the help of magic or Emma.
that are questing like i said before not answered, how was possible that Neal walk on SB like nothing happened, bc he had rumple inside him, so that means somthing triger him to take charge of his father.
@Ranisha, i will say what @RG said to me, dont think logic about ouat, i even bet that soon the new land we will visit will be PlotLand, since the show is now a big pile of plotholes, you have them everywhere you go, to all characters, but if you look to Neal story, his the one with more plotholes, so what you do when, you dont have talent to write a good story, you kill the character so that no one looks at them.
Levels of plot holes, and ouat has all of them. Someone should make a award for show with more plotholes, bet ouat would win.
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July 3, 2014 at 8:23 am #276027Ranisha Pitts
ParticipantJuly 3, 2014 at 9:19 am #276031RumplesGirl
KeymasterBecause that would mean the characters (read: writers) would have to recognize that Neal was a true hero.
The Charming line at the ‘coronation’ ceremony of “we name him for a hero, someone who saved every one of us” isn’t the characters recognising Neal was a hero?
They meant that Neal died so that they could learn Zelena’s name. I was referring to the fact that they’ll never know that Neal is the only reason they get to keep their baby in the first place. If he hadn’t sent that message, no one would have found Emma and brought her to SB from NYC, and Henry and Regina would never break the Curse, and Zelena would have taken the baby.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"July 3, 2014 at 11:51 am #276052PriceofMagic
ParticipantWhich makes me go back to Rainbow post, why was Neal aware of Zelena pre curse but not aware of Zelena post curse. I understand erased memories. But if Neal can hear Zelena inside of Rumple (he was able to removed himself from Rumple) in Enchanted Forest, shouldn’t he hear Zelena in StoryBrooke….. did I just fall into another plot hole, can someone save me with logic and rationale…..
2nd question: How was Neal able to separate himself from Rumple physically without the help of magic or Emma.
Perhaps Neal separating himself from Rumple in EF severely weakened him to the point where he was literally living off of Rumple and separating them killed him. To put it bluntly, unfortunately, Baelfire was like a parasite. He needed Rumple as a “host” to survive. Without being attached to Rumple, Neal couldn’t survive.
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Keeper of FelixJuly 3, 2014 at 12:02 pm #276053RumplesGirl
KeymasterWhich makes me go back to Rainbow post, why was Neal aware of Zelena pre curse but not aware of Zelena post curse. I understand erased memories. But if Neal can hear Zelena inside of Rumple (he was able to removed himself from Rumple) in Enchanted Forest, shouldn’t he hear Zelena in StoryBrooke….. did I just fall into another plot hole, can someone save me with logic and rationale….. 2nd question: How was Neal able to separate himself from Rumple physically without the help of magic or Emma.
Perhaps Neal separating himself from Rumple in EF severely weakened him to the point where he was literally living off of Rumple and separating them killed him. To put it bluntly, unfortunately, Baelfire was like a parasite. He needed Rumple as a “host” to survive. Without being attached to Rumple, Neal couldn’t survive.
It does weaken him. He’s barely able to breathe while writing that note and sending out the dove.
As to how Neal was able to remove himself from Rumple without magic…. that’s the power of love. The title for that episode A Curious Thing is a refernce to how powerful love is. It’s demonstrated in that episode thought Regina/Henry; Snow/Charming; and Neal/Emma
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"July 3, 2014 at 12:31 pm #276060PriceofMagic
ParticipantI think it would’ve been interesting if Neal had been deaged to young Bae again instead of killing him. Henry and Baelfire could spend time together with the tragic part being that Bae doesn’t know he’s Henry’s father.
I also wonder whether we will see Baelfire again in flashbacks though Neal probably won’t show up again.
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Keeper of FelixJuly 3, 2014 at 12:35 pm #276062RumplesGirl
KeymasterI think it would’ve been interesting if Neal had been deaged to young Bae again instead of killing him. Henry and Baelfire could spend time together with the tragic part being that Bae doesn’t know he’s Henry’s father. I also wonder whether we will see Baelfire again in flashbacks though Neal probably won’t show up again.
The only flashbacks they can do with Dylan would be his escape from NL and landing here. He’s getting far too old to keep playing Young Bae; in his last episode 304, it was VERY obvious that he was much older than he had been when he fell through the portal.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"July 3, 2014 at 1:12 pm #276067TheWatcher
ParticipantThe only flashbacks they can do with Dylan would be his escape from NL and landing here. He’s getting far too old to keep playing Young Bae; in his last episode 304, it was VERY obvious that he was much older than he had been when he fell through the portal
Ehhh, maybe they would recast for a younger Bae and Dylan for teen Bae
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ParticipantThe only flashbacks they can do with Dylan would be his escape from NL and landing here. He’s getting far too old to keep playing Young Bae; in his last episode 304, it was VERY obvious that he was much older than he had been when he fell through the portal
Ehhh, maybe they would recast for a younger Bae and Dylan for teen Bae
That is all very beautiful, if they had something to show about Neal/Bae, the thing is, although there is a lot to show about him, there is no reason or will to show it. Also saw many people saying that we may see Fb of him, bc the persons that knew him can talk about him to Henry, but, all the persons that knew him, only knew him with 14 years, Emma wont say anything and was maybe with him like few months, previous year he died very soon, no nothing to show, there is no one to talk about Neal to henry , so no reason to show any flashbacks of Bae or Neal. If they want to show Rumple remenbering Bae, they just need to use some scenes from the S1, and about neal they must have some scenes to show from 206, i even think the 322 scene was in fact filmed when they shoot 206, but wasnt used bc somehow hinted that Neal was Bae, so they use it now. They did this with 214,august/neal scene, Eion didnt filmed bc they used that unseen scene from 206.
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