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Baelfire

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  • July 3, 2014 at 1:37 pm #276073
    Ranisha Pitts
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    I have difficulty seeing why the need to highlight Bae when he is dead, they should have done all that while he was living. Neverland should have been showed when they were in Neverland. the Ferris wheel scene should been in 3A or season 2. Why fleshed out a dead character….

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    July 3, 2014 at 1:41 pm #276077
    Rainbow
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    I have difficulty seeing why the need to highlight Bae when he is dead, they should have done all that while he was living. Neverland should have been showed when they were in Neverland. the Ferris wheel scene should been in 3A or season 2. Why fleshed out a dead character….

    Because this is what this show does, they kill characters, to develop them after death, they did it with Graham, with Cora, with Eva, with leo, with Neal, probably will do it with Pan and zelena.

    "I offended you with my opinion? Ha, you should hear the ones I keep to myself".

    July 3, 2014 at 1:42 pm #276078
    RumplesGirl
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    RumplesGirl wrote:

    The only flashbacks they can do with Dylan would be his escape from NL and landing here. He’s getting far too old to keep playing Young Bae; in his last episode 304, it was VERY obvious that he was much older than he had been when he fell through the portal

    Ehhh, maybe they would recast for a younger Bae and Dylan for teen Bae

    Doubtful. You run the risk of confusing your audience and there isn’t much left to tell for Young Bae. Anything with Bae would be Teen Bae (Dylan)

    "He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
    July 3, 2014 at 2:13 pm #276079
    Jenna_B
    Participant

    I have difficulty seeing why the need to highlight Bae when he is dead, they should have done all that while he was living. Neverland should have been showed when they were in Neverland. the Ferris wheel scene should been in 3A or season 2. Why fleshed out a dead character….

    I don’t think the flashback scene in the finale was meant to flesh out Neal, just Emma.  It’s showing the audience where she got her definition of home.

     

    July 3, 2014 at 2:44 pm #276087
    RumplesGirl
    Keymaster
    Ranisha Pitts wrote:

    I have difficulty seeing why the need to highlight Bae when he is dead, they should have done all that while he was living. Neverland should have been showed when they were in Neverland. the Ferris wheel scene should been in 3A or season 2. Why fleshed out a dead character….

    I don’t think the flashback scene in the finale was meant to flesh out Neal, just Emma. It’s showing the audience where she got her definition of home.

    It is more Emma than Neal. But it still given Neal more color and flavor because it’s about his own definition of home and how at the same time Emma is leaning about home and coming to recognize it in Neal, he’s coming to recognize it in her.  It’s about their mutual understanding of home being each other, for however long it might last.

    "He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
    July 3, 2014 at 3:25 pm #276089
    Epona_610
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    I always figured that he was able to separate himself from his father for a little bit through “hysterical strength”, that surge of adrenaline or something (it’s not very well understood) that people can get in life-or-death situations like when you hear about people lifting up cars to free someone or whatever.

    And regarding the finale flashback, when was that scene supposed to have taken place? Was that supposed to be like their first date or was that something that happened later? I couldn’t tell for sure. And I guess that in addition to the story element (establishing Emma’s definition of home), it felt to me like that scene was also a send-off to the character since we most likely won’t see him again. And maybe it was supposed to sort of end his story on a somewhat positive note instead of dwelling on the (weird and, to many, unsatisfying) way he died…? I don’t know.

    July 3, 2014 at 3:28 pm #276090
    RumplesGirl
    Keymaster

    And regarding the finale flashback, when was that scene supposed to have taken place? Was that supposed to be like their first date or was that something that happened later? I couldn’t tell for sure. And I guess that in addition to the story element (establishing Emma’s definition of home), it felt to me like that scene was also a send-off to the character since we most likely won’t see him again. And maybe it was supposed to sort of end his story on a somewhat positive note instead of dwelling on the (weird and, to many, unsatisfying) way he died…? I don’t know.

    It’s their first date. At the end of the first part of their original meeting in “Tallhassee” Neal asks about getting a drink. Emma follows this up in 322 by remarking about how when Neal said drink she thought he meant somewhere with chairs. They are also holding coffee at the time.

    "He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
    July 3, 2014 at 4:25 pm #276095
    WickedRegal
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    Epona_610 wrote:

    And regarding the finale flashback, when was that scene supposed to have taken place? Was that supposed to be like their first date or was that something that happened later? I couldn’t tell for sure. And I guess that in addition to the story element (establishing Emma’s definition of home), it felt to me like that scene was also a send-off to the character since we most likely won’t see him again. And maybe it was supposed to sort of end his story on a somewhat positive note instead of dwelling on the (weird and, to many, unsatisfying) way he died…? I don’t know.

    It’s their first date. At the end of the first part of their original meeting in “Tallhassee” Neal asks about getting a drink. Emma follows this up in 322 by remarking about how when Neal said drink she thought he meant somewhere with chairs. They are also holding coffee at the time.

    Meeting your true love while stealing the car that he himself stole….Emma and Neal truly had one of the most unusual true love meetings, but it truly was one of the funniest and the best! At least they didn’t meet when Emma was frolicking in the forest, or singing by a wishing well 😛

    Still no logical reason as to why they felt the need to kill Bae…as all of this could have been done with Neal alive. Here’s a question….if Baelfire had lived, do you think he would have been the one to break his father from Zelena’s control without them having to take the dagger? I think that could have been the perfect opportunity to parallel Rumple letting Bae go for power, and now he loves his son mostly enough to defy the power of the dagger!

     

    "If you go as far as you can see...you will then see enough to go even further." - Finn Balor

    July 3, 2014 at 4:45 pm #276100
    PriceofMagic
    Participant

    I think if Rumple was going to be able to override the control of the dagger because of love, it should’ve been either Bae or Belle or both at the same time. It would be unfair to either one of them to say their love wasn’t strong enough to break Zelena’s control but the other one’s was. Rumple did his best to fight the control of the dagger through sheer will but the Dark One’s curse was too strong.

    All magic comes with a price!

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    July 3, 2014 at 5:34 pm #276106
    Jenna_B
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    It is more Emma than Neal. But it still given Neal more color and flavor because it’s about his own definition of home and how at the same time Emma is leaning about home and coming to recognize it in Neal, he’s coming to recognize it in her. It’s about their mutual understanding of home being each other, for however long it might last.

    I did like getting to see their first date.  Leave it to Neal to make it something completely…SF!  I always really liked his small scale thievery.  He does things that are ‘bad/wrong’ or maybe not socially acceptable(?) but in the grand scheme of OUAT, his petty theft doesn’t hold a candle to the things many of the others have done.  (It drove me nuts that her hair was wavy though when her flashbacks in Tallahassee all showed her with very straight hair.  Forget the giant plotholes, these are the things that drive me nuts!)

    I don’t think Neal would/should have been able to free Rumple from the curse of the Dark One had he lived.  I think Rumple will only be completely free of the curse when he learns for himself that he doesn’t need to be a slave to it (but that’s for a different character thread!)

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