Baelfire

[midnight dreary]

@weebeastie wrote:

@celesstarr wrote:

And another time/space reference is in Mr. Gold’s conversation with August when he thought August was Baelfire…Mr. Gold says that ever since Bae crossed TIME and SPACE he had been looking for him.

So, the dark curse was probably made to cross time and space as well…and to go to the exact precise time/location where Baelfire was deposited into…+28 years of frozen SB time ofcourse..which would make Bae currently 42.

I think Bae would age only if time is linear. Also, I suspect that the vortex exists outside of space and time, causing him to be “frozen.” So from Bae’s point of view he would have fallen through the vortex and seconds later ends up in current SB, without having aged at all.

I hope that made sense…

I hope you’re right. Time travel can cause a lot of confusion. The rules tend to be a little shifty. Besides, I want to see Baelfire either remain a child or be in his 20s or 30s.

[lissy]

Rumpel created the curse to find his son, which is sweet, but in the process, damaged countless lives. Do you think Bae will be able to forgive his father for causing a great deal of pain? As much as I personally want a happy reunion, I could see Bae being furious that Rumpel caused so much evil and guilty that it was all for finding him.

Oh and since we already saw a fake happy version of Rumpel’s reunion with his “son,” I doubt the writers would make the actual one the exact same, easily forgiven type. They are gonna have to add some kind of twist so the audiance is not just watching a repeat. What do you guys think?

[midnight dreary]

@Lissy wrote:

Rumpel created the curse to find his son, which is sweet, but in the process, damaged countless lives. Do you think Bae will be able to forgive his father for causing a great deal of pain? As much as I personally want a happy reunion, I could see Bae being furious that Rumpel caused so much evil and guilty that it was all for finding him.

Oh and since we already saw a fake happy version of Rumpel’s reunion with his “son,” I doubt the writers would make the actual one the exact same, easily forgiven type. They are gonna have to add some kind of twist so the audiance is not just watching a repeat. What do you guys think?

I don’t know why, but I have a feeling something bad will happen to Baelfire. Not anything tragic like death, but I think the next we meet him he’ll be…damaged. I don’t see Baelfire surviving everything that has happened to him without a few emotional scars.

[lissy]

I don’t see Baelfire surviving everything that has happened to him without a few emotional scars.

That is true…They are going to need an awfully long session with Archie…

[eternalflame]

I also fear for Baelfire’s mental and emotional well-being. He’s been through so much and I’m not sure if his young fragile mind would be able to handle it.

Baelfire actually reminds me Luke Skywalker (Yes, I wen there) Baelfire is essentially good, but he’ll always be tempted by the “dark side.” And to make matter worse, his father has already been converted to the dark side. After viewing last week’s episode, I’m beginning to believe that it will be up to Baelfire to save his father from the forces of evil. Sometimes, it takes the urging of a loved one to change your life. Maybe Baelfire will be that person for Rumple.

You know, after all this talk of fathers and sons, good and evil, I kind of wish that Baelfire played a bigger role in the show. He’s extremely important to the plot. If it weren’t for him, the curse wouldn’t have existed. So, it’s pretty safe to say that the curse is about him, and not necessarily Emma. Rumpel could have easily used any child from the product of true love to help him create the curse. So, Emma isn’t necessarily the focus of the curse. It’s Baelfire. Baelfire is the common thread that runs through this curse.

[celesstarr]

@Lissy wrote:

Oh and since we already saw a fake happy version of Rumpel’s reunion with his “son,” I doubt the writers would make the actual one the exact same, easily forgiven type. They are gonna have to add some kind of twist so the audiance is not just watching a repeat. What do you guys think?

Yes, i was thinking about that too. Why would they have Mr. Gold spend himself emotionally to that degree right now?

I have 2 theories:

1. The writers are priming us for when Belle appears so we are used to Mr. Gold showing emotion – kind of like a prep. OR maybe showing us that he’s capable of deep feeling, because he won’t react outward emotionally when he first sees Belle in SB.

2. His actual reunion with Baelfire will be exactly the opposite and the writers want us to see how Mr. Gold WOULD HAVE reacted. Maybe the real future reunion will not give an opportunity for Mr. Gold to have such an outpouring of emotion.

[eternalflame]

Yes, Mr. Gold and August’s scene in the woods was very beautiful and touching. But I want his real reunion with his son to even more so. However, after August’s betrayal, I don’t think Mr. Gold is going to allow anyone to get that close to him again. Which is sad because the real Baelfire is out there somewhere, and Belle is safely locked in the mental asylum. But now, Mr. Gold’s walls are going to be sky high. No one will be able to penetrate them.

[mickey]

I’m not convinced about this one. I think in the last episode they showed us that Gold is ready to put his walls down, at least a bit. He began to realise how lonely he actually is and that it is impossible to live like this in the long run. Earlier he didn’t allow himself to think about it. It was only when he was going through an emotionally tough situation that he needed human contact.
The scenes where people kept asking him if he’s there for the rent were very funny, but at the same time somehow sad. They made him realise that there is noone he has connected to so far in SB, and that realisation shook him, I think.

[dorothy]

@EternalღFlame wrote:

Yes, Mr. Gold and August’s scene in the woods was very beautiful and touching. But I want his real reunion with his son to even more so. However, after August’s betrayal, I don’t think Mr. Gold is going to allow anyone to get that close to him again.

I feel that way too, Gold got burned big time in this episode. If he does come across the real Bae, he probably won’t reach out to him as quickly out of suspicion.

@Midnight Dreary wrote:

I don’t know why, but I have a feeling something bad will happen to Baelfire. Not anything tragic like death, but I think the next we meet him he’ll be…damaged. I don’t see Baelfire surviving everything that has happened to him without a few emotional scars.

I also feel the same way. I’m don’t think Bae will be as forgiving as August pretended to be. We still don’t know where or when he came out of the bean-wormhole, or if he even came out yet. If Bae has been trying to survive in this world by himself for a few years or more, I’m sure he’ll subdue his emotions until he confronts his father-then he’s going to lose it. If the writers decide to show him sometime during the 2nd season as a 14 year old boy just crawling out of the bean-wormhole, his hurt feelings will still be raw.

I’m pretty sure the real reunion of Bae and Rumple is going to involve a lot of yelling, swearing, throwing things, and a generous use of the word “coward.”

[lissy]

I’m pretty sure the real reunion of Bae and Rumple is going to involve a lot of yelling, swearing, throwing things, and a generous use of the word “coward.”

I agree. Rumpel will need to open himself up again to honesty and confess his cowardness. As much as I love Rumpel, I don’t think he should be easily forgiven. Even though it was not exactly on purpose, he did abandon his son due to fear of losing his power. (Depending on when he landed on earth) Bae had to grow up without a father. After this event, Bae is going to have major scaring on his relationship with his dad. Rumpel will truly have to redeem himself. I know, I know, he created the curse for him… but Bae is not going to appreciate all the damage Rumpel caused. I think the only way is for him to get rid of the dark curse. And, you know, kissing Belle might do the job 🙄

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