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May 13, 2013 at 3:34 pm #136839winlea78Participant
Did Baelfire make the RIGHT choice by leaving Hook? Honestly I’m torn. I completely understand is anger at the man who help rip his family apart. But in the case of adultery the “other man/woman” isn’t really the problem because if the spouse is determined to leave, then they’ll do it anyway. But in a way I feel Bae didn’t give Hook the chance to change/reform. But then again Bae probably felt that if is own father wouldn’t change for him, then how in the world could this man really mean what he said? Like I said I’m torn. To me the Jolly rodger is a better place than Neverland
[adrotate group="5"]May 13, 2013 at 4:38 pm #193859PriceofMagicParticipantI think Bae was hurting from the fact that his mother chose to abandon him instead of being killed which meant instead of her being unable to be with him, she chose not to be with him. Milah chose to leave him and Hook was the reason why she chose to leave.
Despite Hook’s assurances that him and Milah talked about getting Bae and bringing him with them, the fact is they didn’t. They had nearly a decade to come back before Bae went through the portal and they didn’t. Why would Bae want to stay with Hook when he considers Hook to be the reason his family broke down and fell apart?
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Keeper of FelixMay 13, 2013 at 4:41 pm #193861RumplesGirlKeymasterDespite Hook’s assurances that him and Milah talked about getting Bae and bringing him with them, the fact is they didn’t. They had nearly a decade to come back before Bae went through the portal and they didn’t. Why would Bae want to stay with Hook when he considers Hook to be the reason his family broke down and fell apart?
That line angered me. Why wait? If you really felt that terrible about leaving your son, how is waiting until he is older supposed to help? “Let him grow up without a mother, abandoned, and then we’ll swoop in and bring him with us because now he’s finally old enough?” That line….ooooooh. I was not happy.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"May 13, 2013 at 5:00 pm #193875KebParticipantMaybe because they were living as pirates on a ship and didn’t want a little kid getting hurt in that lifestyle? That made…some sense to me.
Milah was a bit of a coward in some ways, though–so maybe she was scared to go back and face Bae’s understandable anger/disappointment with her decision to a) leave him and b) take up piracy with Killian. Whether she regretted leaving him or not, she still made that choice–and before then had made the choice to leave him home alone to go drinking and carousing–no mom of the year awards for Milah, I’m afraid.
She must have had some good qualities–Bae is a fundamentally good person, and her son, and both Rumple and Killian fell for her. She was willing to risk her life to save Killian’s, which demonstrates that she was capable of true love and heroism. We’ve only seen her for brief moments, so it’s hard to really understand her completely–or like her much given how she hurt both Bae and Rumple. But if we can accept that Rumple keeps sending Belle away (or trying to) to protect her, then I think we could accept that Milah didn’t take itty-bitty Bae on a pirate ship for the same reason.
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May 13, 2013 at 5:49 pm #193901spinninggoldParticipant@RumplesGirl wrote:
Despite Hook’s assurances that him and Milah talked about getting Bae and bringing him with them, the fact is they didn’t. They had nearly a decade to come back before Bae went through the portal and they didn’t. Why would Bae want to stay with Hook when he considers Hook to be the reason his family broke down and fell apart?
That line angered me. Why wait? If you really felt that terrible about leaving your son, how is waiting until he is older supposed to help? “Let him grow up without a mother, abandoned, and then we’ll swoop in and bring him with us because now he’s finally old enough?” That line….ooooooh. I was not happy.
Im with Keb here Milah was an even bigger coward than Rumpel. And selfish to boot. I think the only reason Bae didn’t turn out like her was the fact that he didn’t know the truth and is more like his father, peasant Rumpel. (and eventually, he did, he left Emma,because he was scared) You can say what you want, but he always tried to do the right thing, despite the odds being against him, and always tried to redeem himself. Rumpel has been told from an early age that he is a coward and the son of a coward, when he really is couragous. He goes to war. And I think if it had not been for his son, he may have been prepared to die, but he did not want to leave his son fatherless, like he had been.
Milah married Rumpel for the safety it brought and then got bored with it when things did not go her way. She left her son and as far as Rumpel knew, Hook sold her into slavery, so she was as good as dead. She must have seen her husband being humiliated on deck and did nothing, not even tell him the truth which she owed him Whatever she did, she did not come back for Bae. To be honest, from the moment Rumpel returned, she didnt even seem to want to touch him. (yes I dislike her a lot)
May 13, 2013 at 5:52 pm #193903RumplesGirlKeymasterOh, hey. I join with the disliking of Milah a lot. A lot a lot. I didn’t find fault with Hook with that line so much as Milah who obviously thought, “I can go back for him in a few years and that will everything better.”
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"May 13, 2013 at 8:43 pm #193971kfchimeraParticipantI’m conflicted about Milah. I agree with what Keb says, but divorce and visitation were just not FTL ways of life. Nor is a pirate ship really a good place for a kid.
I do think Hook was hasty in how he handled Bae’s rejection. Bae is 14, and had been hurt and surprised a lot. Hook didn’t have experience enough to realize that kids this age often need patience, will say hurtful things to even those they love. It is part of growing up to start challenging the would-be parental figures, and thinking they don’t know what is best for you. Then you throw in someone who is a pirate and ran away with your mother and expect more or less instant trust?
I wish Hook had patiently kept at it, so things could have changed between them (I’m thinking of the Dread Pirates Robert scenario….with Hook saying every night he’ll most likely kill Bae in the morning, but then never doing it until Bae trusts him. ). I’m hopeful that Hook realizes his mistake sooner and goes to rescue Bae. We do know Bae escapes eventually, and that he doesn’t hate Hook outright. After all, he even asks Emma if she is OK with leaving Hook in the closet, despite having no reason to really know Emma knew Hook. It’s like he got over assuming Hook was dangerous somehow, but still not so much to mind leaving him to fend for himself.
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