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Some folks have been complaining that Neal’s statement in “The Queen is Dead” that “This world wasn’t my first stop” wasn’t true but I think it was most definitely true. Wendy and the rest of the Darling family are not from our world – they are fictional characters here, just like Snow White, Frankenstein, et al. Like our world, their world is A world without magic but it is not our world. Remember, Jefferson said, “There are many worlds. Some have magic, some don’t.”
I hope this means we will eventually get to see some more fictional characters from their Victorian world, like Sherlock Holmes – I am a big Sherlockian! As ceege pointed out in the Favorite/Least Favorite Moments thread for “Second Star to the Right…” over at https://oncepodcast.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=77&t=3078&p=58990&hilit=Sherlock#p58990, it would be great if we got to see some flashbacks of Bae with the Baker Street Irregulars before he met Wendy. Or perhaps he met Oliver Twist or some other Dickens characters.
Like a lot of people, I like the idea that Wendy founded Greg and Tamara’s “Home Office” after Bae left. This could still be true if the Home Office later developed some technology for travelling between worlds and set out to eradicate magic from other worlds in addition to their own. So at some point someone from the Home Office travelled to our world and discovered that magic had been introduced here and they began work to eradicate the magic.
[adrotate group="5"]Good points. Just because our world is a land without magic doesn’t mean it’s the only land without magic. Over at this thread we’re been working with the idea that the London we saw in Second Star to the Right is actually the Land Without Color from Frankenstein’s story and that after the Home Office was developed (probably by Wendy) it set out to eradicate magic, leading to its non-color status by the time we get to the Frankenstein myth. It’s pretty interesting. We call it a land without color but it could be a Fictional Europe where you have the Darlings, Oliver Twist, Sherlock Holmes, ect in England, Frankenstein in Germany and maybe the Hunchback of Notre Dame in Paris.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"@RumplesGirl wrote:
Over at this thread we’re been working with the idea that the London we saw in Second Star to the Right is actually the Land Without Color from Frankenstein’s story and that after the Home Office was developed (probably by Wendy) it set out to eradicate magic, leading to its non-color status by the time we get to the Frankenstein myth.
Great theory! I should have read that thread before starting this one.
@TimeSpacer wrote:
@RumplesGirl wrote:
Over at this thread we’re been working with the idea that the London we saw in Second Star to the Right is actually the Land Without Color from Frankenstein’s story and that after the Home Office was developed (probably by Wendy) it set out to eradicate magic, leading to its non-color status by the time we get to the Frankenstein myth.
Great theory! I should have read that thread before starting this one.
Oh totally fine. I was just suggesting something else to read. A lot of us are bothered by that line from The Queen is Dead because it seems contradictory to what we saw in Second Star to the Right. But I really like the idea of Fictional Europe. It opens up a lot of doors for other stories someday.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"I would have loved to see Sherlock Holmes in SB!
But, in an interview in EW magazine, K&H said that Graham was originally suppose to be Sherlock, but they couldn’t get the rights 🙁I like the idea of London being a fictional/non magic London.
I don’t think it’s Victor’s “Land Without Color”, though.
Victor’s LWC has to have some kind of magic, or Jefferson’s had would not have been able to go there.
That world was depicted in black&white. London wasn’t.
Also, when Rumple went to LWC, he still had ‘color’, so, it’s safe to say that Bae would’ve still had ‘color’ and he would have stuck out like a sore thumb in that world.Victor’s LWC has to have some kind of magic, or Jefferson’s had would not have been able to go there.
That world was depicted in black&white. London wasn’t.
Also, when Rumple went to LWC, he still had ‘color’, so, it’s safe to say that Bae would’ve still had ‘color’ and he would have stuck out like a sore thumb in that world.Yes this is a stumbling block because the magic in a LWC is feeble and neglected, to quote Rumple.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"I agree about loving the idea that London is the London of fictional literature. I’m thinking of it as a Charles Dicken’s London because of the Oliver Twist comment that K&H made.
@Gypsy wrote:
I would have loved to see Sherlock Holmes in SB!
But, in an interview in EW magazine, K&H said that Graham was originally suppose to be Sherlock, but they couldn’t get the rights 🙁I like the idea of London being a fictional/non magic London.
I don’t think it’s Victor’s “Land Without Color”, though.
Victor’s LWC has to have some kind of magic, or Jefferson’s had would not have been able to go there.
That world was depicted in black&white. London wasn’t.
Also, when Rumple went to LWC, he still had ‘color’, so, it’s safe to say that Bae would’ve still had ‘color’ and he would have stuck out like a sore thumb in that world.Agreed. Rumple had to create a curse just to be able to travel to a land without magic, and that took centuries. Rumple was able to visit A Land Without Color freely.
I see what you’re saying but let me try this:
London became the LWC after magic was almost all eradicated from it. Bae was in London when magic was still at its height. In LWC magic had all but been depleted. Rumple as a magical creature was still in color because of his inherent magical properties.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
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