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@SpinningGold wrote:
First of all: Cruel, no matter what you think of her acting, to post a remark about that about a young girl that clearly put everything into that role. How would you like it if somebody started making remarks about somethi you absolutely poured your heart in? If something needs to change in her acting, it’s the director’s job to pick up on that not yours.
Secondly I think she did absolutely wonderful, we see Snow do things, like scold a servant that was un-Snow-like (but will make sense, come next episode) that were hard, and she did fabulous. Don’t forget, we see this gorgeous set, they are in a green room.
And ItachiIstar,, same goes for Jared, he is doing great. The madness about his mother’s lies could be better, but I think this is the writer’s fault. They have given him lines that are unnatural for him, and he is making the best out of it that he can. He is however to young to say: Hey, this does not work, I wouldn’t say that, let’s try it ….. , like a Robert Carlyle might do. He’s a kid, so he does what he is told. Again, not his fault. (The cheezy pizza line was horrid and stupid. Henry is too young (and still innocent) for sarcasm, and Jared is clearly just saying the line because he had to. The producers are trying to create an animosity between them that isn’t there, just so Emma and Gold have common ground. It should have been cut)Exactly!! This is the point I was trying to make. They are only young and as I said, don’t have as much experience as the other actors such as Robert. I was actually shocked by some of the comments I was reading on here.
Jared!? I haven’t seen someone make a bad comment about Jared until Itachilstar. I don’t know what TV show you’re watching, but I think he’s doing a terrific job, I can’t see anything wrong with his acting.
There’s no need to be so picky and attack the actors. I can’t believe some people – it’s never good enough for them![adrotate group="5"]I should apologize and make my stance clearer, and I was a tad too harsh on Jared. No I don’t think Jared is the worst child actor out there, but he’s not the best either. Personally, I’m mixed with him. Sometimes he can be great, but sometimes he could have been a bit better. While at times it is definitely the writing and directing that impact his performance, there have been a few times where his delivery seems a bit off (the way he speaks his dialogue). Granted, child actors are not going to have as much experience as their adult counterparts simply because they are younger and have been acting for a smaller amount of time. I really didn’t make it up when I said I’ve read several comments elsewhere not being too huge on Jared’s performance, including professional reviewers. Of course, Henry’s character itself gets a lot of undeserved hate in general. I give mad props to Jared for trying his best and I’m sure he’ll continue to improve. However, the point of my original comment is that I still found Bailee Madison to be a better actor by comparison, and I mean that she is exceptionally good for her child acting. Still, nobody’s perfect, and I apologize again if my previous comment sounded too mean on Jared.
I think the problem mainly comes from writers that are story telling instead of placing themselves in the mind of a child. Therefor their acting becomes construed and unnatural, because it’s not what a child would say. And I urge the writers to take a look at a BBC comedy series called ‘Outnumbered’ where they don’t write lines, just basic situations, and then let the kid actors loose with their own fantasy and let them react in their own words as the adults who play their parents have to react on that. it makes some some of the funniest comedy ever, like when Karen, the little daughter compares voting for goverment to an Idols finale where everyone has to dial in their vote and at the end the prime minister goes BOOHOO I won. And her disappointment and annoyment when dad tells he that’s not quite that way. “They should”.
Point is, it’s kids language. And it comes across far more natural, because the kids understand their role better.
another clip: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8Qia54-re4@SpinningGold wrote:
I think the problem mainly comes from writers that are story telling instead of placing themselves in the mind of a child. Therefor their acting becomes construed and unnatural, because it’s not what a child would say. And I urge the writers to take a look at a BBC comedy series called ‘Outnumbered’ where they don’t write lines, just basic situations, and then let the kid actors loose with their own fantasy and let them react in their own words as the adults who play their parents have to react on that. it makes some some of the funniest comedy ever, like when Karen, the little daughter compares voting for goverment to an Idols finale where everyone has to dial in their vote and at the end the prime minister goes BOOHOO I won. And her disappointment and annoyment when dad tells he that’s not quite that way. “They should”.
Point is, it’s kids language. And it comes across far more natural, because the kids understand their role better.I can completely see what you mean. Much of Henry’s dialogue sounds more like how an adult would talk, not a kid. It’s only natural that it wouldn’t always sound right coming out of his mouth. Then again, it could be intentional. After all, Henry has been described as a very smart kid for his age many times on the show.
Here’s the clip where Baliee talked about her prep for the role of young Snow White and Ginny Goodwin commended her for her portrayal: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vry6smDzu1A&feature=player_embedded
I thought Bailee was wonderful at showing a distraught, saddened Snow White on the cusp of womanhood. She was both childlike and far more mature for her age all in one, and I believe that is down to Bailee’s acting chops, which were wonderful. Her face is so animated, and while some might call it overacting, I think it’s emotional and vibrant. She had me in tears several times, especially in those moments where she was mourning the loss of her mother. 😥
And Bailee had Ginny’s expressions down to a tee. Just compare these two GIFs.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
I need to re-watch “The Heart is a Lonely Hunter”, but doesn’t Snow say the same exact quote to her dead father that she says to her dead mother in this episode? I am of course talking about “I miss you…SO MUCH!” If I am correct in my recollection, Bailee channeled that same line perfectly.
@slurpeez108 wrote:
Here’s the clip where Baliee talked about her prep for the role of young Snow White and Ginny Goodwin commended her for her portrayal: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vry6smDzu1A&feature=player_embedded
I thought Bailee was wonderful at showing a distraught, saddened Snow White on the cusp of womanhood. She was both childlike and far more mature for her age all in one, and I believe that is down to Bailee’s acting chops, which were wonderful. Her face is so animated, and while some might call it overacting, I think it’s emotional and vibrant. She had me in tears several times, especially in those moments where she was mourning the loss of her mother. 😥
Couldn’t have said it better. Refrained from quoting the gifs you found, but they make it very visible.
@SpinningGold wrote:
I think the problem mainly comes from writers that are story telling instead of placing themselves in the mind of a child. Therefor their acting becomes construed and unnatural, because it’s not what a child would say. And I urge the writers to take a look at a BBC comedy series called ‘Outnumbered’ where they don’t write lines, just basic situations, and then let the kid actors loose with their own fantasy and let them react in their own words as the adults who play their parents have to react on that. it makes some some of the funniest comedy ever, like when Karen, the little daughter compares voting for goverment to an Idols finale where everyone has to dial in their vote and at the end the prime minister goes BOOHOO I won. And her disappointment and annoyment when dad tells he that’s not quite that way. “They should”.
Point is, it’s kids language. And it comes across far more natural, because the kids understand their role better.
another clip: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8Qia54-re4Yes and no. Question is, how much do they expect anyone to exactly deliver the line always as they have scripted it, production and directing decision.
And a question is, what do they want the character to be like.
And Once Upon is not (just) playing in our times or our modern world even.
What comes across as clunky and sounding somewhat too adult for Henry could be on purpose, afterall he grew up with not so normal circumstances in a not all normal surrounding. Kids are notorious imitators, they copy from the people around them on conscious and subconscious level, developing over time their own more personal style (we don’t totally loose that habit of imitation or synching with people around us as adults, but by then we have developed more of our own style and quirks; think it was Jennifer Morrison who mentioned in an interview, how she sometimes picks up things from Ginnifer Goodwin without being all aware of it). Regina, the person with the most influence on Henry in his life so far, was less adapted to our modern world even than the other in Storybrooke because she had intact memories, something that you can notice in her use of language all over the time, it is outdated, has a touch of Shakespearan wording. Something I actually expect to have rubbed off on Henry. Henry is no normal teenager living in our world. And even the other citizens of Storybrooke had a slightly outdated speaking style before the curse broke, they were frozen in time, always out of sync with the rest of the world, our modern world.
This outdated style of phrasing is something that is even more present in the flashback to the Fairy Tale Lands, it’s all a bit flowery and stilted there, and even more so in royal families and at court. So, what for some looked as overacting was in my opinion something Bailee nailed better than even some adult actors in the Fairy Tale flashbacks do at times.
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Ususally, with some of the guest stars on this show, they have been a bit of a hit-or-miss. I’m not trying to be mean but some of them have not been good. Part of it is to do with the writing–they cannot really do much if they are not given much to do with.
That said, I though Bailee Madison was wonderful, since Stable Boy. This seen is show has had a few child actors guest star, and out of all of them, Bailee was the best. 🙂 Yes she is young and is probably still learning, but the emotion she brought on scrren was wonderful. Seriously, she is one of the best child-actors I’ve seen in a long time.
With Jared, I don’t think the lines are at fault. Yeah, they aren’t good, but the way he reads them are weird. Sometimes he comes off as flat–there are times where he can be really good, though. Episodes like Broken, We Are both, and Manhatten come to mind. But other times, he just seems to be rereading his lines.
@SpinningGold wrote:
First of all: Cruel, no matter what you think of her acting, to post a remark about that about a young girl that clearly put everything into that role. How would you like it if somebody started making remarks about somethi you absolutely poured your heart in? If something needs to change in her acting, it’s the director’s job to pick up on that not yours.
Oh, you mean like when I mentioned she’ll likely win an Oscar some day? Yeah that was cruel I suppose. Dude, are you serious with this post? And I did point out it was the director’s responsibility.
I was quite blown away when I saw her in Stable Boy. I thought, not only did they cast a child actress that kinda resembles Ginnifer, but this girl nailed Ginnifer’s mannerisms and movements.
And I think we can all agree, it was Gaston who had the worst performance of an extra. (though he wasn’t a child actor.)
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