BEANTOWN!…..and Hearts

[lilred]

So I missed a forum awhile ago where an idea I posted on my Tumblr came up: that Baelfire was in /landed in/around Boston- nickname: Beantown. Thought I’d start a post and see if I can mature this idea with others feedback.

Boston has served as a place of importance for Enchanted Forest characters throughout the 1st season: Emma’s starting point, Ashley’s refuge, Katherine’s law school, etc. There almost seems to be a natural pull towards Boston/Beantown for them.

Teamed with the theory that the borders between different realms are weakening, I at first thought this could have been caused by Rumple bringing magic into this world. But, if such stories as Alice in Wonderland and the Wizard of Oz have already occurred in this timeline (both were in Henry’s book) then two girls from our world have already passed to others (and not via hat), possibly centuries ago. Guessing that the borders have been weakening for generations, they could currently be at an all time low in present ONCE time.

How does my mind tie this to the Beantown theory/random thought? 😀 Boston is situated on a parallel to what was the Enchanted Forest. Even though it is, at best, ruins at this point – they still feel pulled to their world and home.

Another city in Massachusetts I’ve been thinking about is Worcester: the Heart of the Commonwealth. This is the location of whatever Emma’s criminal activity was at 17. Most interesting thing I found looking into Worcester Mass.? Their seal! The seal to the city is a heart that instantly had me thinking of the Queen of Hearts in Wonderland.

Could this be the parallel to the Queen of Hearts domain? Could the Queen of Hearts have a hand in whatever happened to Emma?

So, I have the word play of Boston:Beantown and a seal as evidence. Gee, Isn’t that enough? And will probably be editing or deleting this in the morning! Thoughts? Ideas on other parallels?

[maze]

Wow. That’s quite a cool theory. I’ve always wondered why so many characters seem to be drawn to Boston, and you may have just figured it out.

I also didn’t know that Boston was called “Beantown”, and now I’m almost convinced that Bae must have landed there. That also supports the idea that Bae is Henry’s father; Emma and Bae could have met in Boston.

I’m all excited now.lol

[mia]

This is the location of whatever Emma’s criminal activity was at 17.

Really? Is that in that article about her or what? I’d have thought it must’ve happened in Arizona as Henry was born in Phoenix and he was born in jail, so Emma was in jail in Phoenix. Otherwise I really like this theory. This Beantown reminds me of a neighbourhood in Stuttgart, Germany, called “Bohnenviertel” (meaning: Bean Quarter), named so because in the 15th-16th centaury the poor people had bean vines growing up the house walls … Next time I wander around it, I’ll probably imagine to see Bae, lol. So I really like the idea of Boston being where Bae ended up. 😀

[dorothy]

@Maze wrote:

I’ve always wondered why so many characters seem to be drawn to Boston, and you may have just figured it out.

I heard during an interview with someone (I think it was the writers) that people in SB are drawn to Boston because it’s the closest metropolis in their area.

The fact that Boston used to be called Beantown is amazing! Just the word “bean” makes me think of Bae-it could very well be where he came out of the vortex. But if we were to go along with the theory that Bae is Henry’s father, then it would make more sense for him to have landed in Phoenix (named after the mythical bird that represents death and renewal), where Emma is said to have given birth. I think no matter how you look at it, both places sound like they could be where to find Bae.

[lilred]

@mia wrote:

This is the location of whatever Emma’s criminal activity was at 17.

Really? Is that in that article about her or what? I’d have thought it must’ve happened in Arizona as Henry was born in Phoenix and he was born in jail, so Emma was in jail in Phoenix.

Yes, it’s mentioned in the article ‘Ex-Jailbird gives birth…’
hjbau transcribed this in the Front Page Forum:

Records show that when she was merely a girl of seventeen, Emma Swan found herself, ironically, on the wrong side of the law. She was visiting friends of her foster parents in the town of Worcester, Massachusetts, it would prove to be a trip that would earn her a juvenile criminal record.

I’m wondering if whatever happened to Emma in Worcester sent her running. As cliche as a pregnant teenage runaway might be, it does seem to fit her character so far. Maybe towards the end of her pregnancy, she realizes she isn’t capable of raising a kid in her current lifestyle and she surrendered in Phoenix. If she was about to give birth, they wouldn’t be able to send her back to MASS. to await trial or serve a sentence yet. So, Henry is then born in Phoenix (only to return to New England…….) and Emma decides it’s time to grow up/change and rises from the ashes a Swan?

[lilred]

For others thinking Henry’s dad is Bae, Worcester is an hour outside of Boston – sometimes less. It wouldn’t be unthinkable that Bae could have traveled from Boston to Worcester for an evening and met Emma there. If either of them had even tried to look the other up in the last 10 years, it could be difficult because neither lived in Worcester, both were just visiting.

[hjbau]

This is an interesting theory. I wonder how the events of Henry’s birth actually were. We know he was born in jail. We know that Regina adopted him when he was three weeks old. Is it possible that Emma was in jail when she had Henry and got out after giving birth and took Henry in her bug across country to Phoenix, maybe in an attempt to find the father, and only then decided to give Henry up when he was three weeks old.

I just keep trying to figure out how all the things Emma has said fit together. She said living out of her car doesn’t even rank in the top ten of worst situations. She said hey sometimes all people have is the back seat of a car when talking to Sean and his dad. She said she messed around with a married man. We know Henry came from Phoenix, but whatever Emma did that got her thrown in jail happened in Massachusetts. We know that Emma getting pregnant and her getting thrown in jail happened around the same time.

We just don’t know, but i wonder if the father was involved in whatever got Emma arrested and Emma tried to keep Henry at first and then gave him up in Phoenix. She could have been living out of the back seat of the car. I just think about in Ep 4 when Gold says you wouldn’t want that baby to be born in jail and Emma immediately reacts to that crossing her arms and almost flinching saying no of course not or something like that and at the time we didn’t know that was because Henry was born in jail, but now we know that was why, so it makes me think other things may fit together and be about Henry’s father.

[hjbau]

@Lil’Red wrote:

For others thinking Henry’s dad is Bae, Worcester is an hour outside of Boston – sometimes less. It wouldn’t be unthinkable that Bae could have traveled from Boston to Worcester for an evening and met Emma there. If either of them had even tried to look the other up in the last 10 years, it could be difficult because neither lived in Worcester, both were just visiting.

What i think happened is that Emma’s former foster parents were visiting these friends in Worcester or Emma lived in Worcester and her last foster family lived nearby or something like that because by this point i think Emma was already emancipated and out on her own. And so Emma was there and something happened where either her foster father or one of their friends had hurt her in the past and Emma either went their to confront them or something along those lines and Emma either beat the guy up or damaged some property. Something like that. But Emma got in trouble for it because she already had issues and they just assumed it was her.

I really think that Emma was abused whether sexually or physically, i am not sure, but either way i think that trying to get out of that situation or get back at the person who did it to her is going to lead to her arrest, but once again that is just a theory.

[dorothy]

@hjbau wrote:

And so Emma was there and something happened where either her foster father or one of their friends had hurt her in the past and Emma either went their to confront them or something along those lines and Emma either beat the guy up or damaged some property.

Let’s assume that’s really what happened. If Henry’s father really did have something to do with her going to prison, maybe he’s the one who suggested that she go and confront the person who hurt her? (Assuming the father is Bae, suggesting that someone stand up for themselves would be something the Bae we all know would definitely support.)

[hjbau]

Right. Though i do think that whatever the father did has to be something real. Like what Snow did to Regina. She really told Cora about Daniel after Regina very specifically asked her not to and that is important. Even though Snow was a child and naive and her intention was not harm and she was manipulated, in the end she did it. She told Cora and Daniel died because of it.

I think that the father needs to have done something even if it is something like he suggests to Emma that she stand up to her abuser and then when they get there and there is a confrontation the police show up the father leaves her there. Leaves her and he doesn’t come forward about whatever happened. And so Emma gets put in jail. It just needs to be real whatever is done and not just a complete misunderstanding.

Like with Regina and Snow it is a misunderstanding in some ways, but in another way Snow is responsible for what happened because if she had just done as Regina asked none of that would have happened. And that is real responsibility even if they need to move past that it doesn’t mean that what was done wasn’t true and real and harmful and i think the same thing needs to be said for whatever happened between Emma and the father, whether it is Bae or not.

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