Behind the scenes pictures from Ep 20 (major spoilers)

[obisgirl]

@AngieBelle wrote:

It’s easy to explain how it might be possible for Pinocchio to grow up, though.

Gepetto could have helped him escape when he built the magic wardrobe in an effort to protect his son. Therefore Pinocchio grew up in our world unaffected by the curse. But since he was connected to the people there- as with Emma- he was able to enter Storybrooke.

Sorry but that would just be really selfish of Gepetto, even Jiminy would have persuaded him that it’s not a good idea. They only have one chance to make the wardrobe, there’s no test run as far as we know.

@Phee wrote:

@obisgirl wrote:

Pinocchio is a large cuckoo clock I figured he either reverted back to wood or was an orphan boy similar to Ava and Nicholas. but I like the cuckoo clock idea better.

Dude, the only folks who are cuckoo are all you folks livin’ in denial not thinking he’s Pinocchio. 😛 😆 😉

I’m not cuckoo.

[Phee]

I’m just jokin’ with y’all, obisgirl. 😉

This whole debate about August’s identity has become such a big thing, it’s kinda reached ridiculous proportions, so I’ve just gotta laugh about it. Can’t wait until it’s FINALLY resolved, one way or the other, so we can all move onto disagreeing about something new. 😆

[hjbau]

@obisgirl wrote:

Sorry but that would just be really selfish of Gepetto, even Jiminy would have persuaded him that it’s not a good idea. They only have one chance to make the wardrobe, there’s no test run as far as we know.

This has always been my biggest issue with the theory of Pinocchio being sent through the wardrobe ahead of Emma. Why would Geppetto chance the saving of the entire world just to send Pinocchio ahead through the wardrobe? That is so selfish. And just wrong, in my opinion.

[angiebelle]

Well, we don’t know exactly how the wardrobe works. Maybe it wasn’t a risk. Maybe Gepetto knew exactly what he was doing and wanted to give Pinocchio his best chance too. Maybe Pinocchio was sent through to make sure the baby made it to safety. After all- they didn’t know what was on the other side.

[hjbau]

But the whole point was to send Snow through still pregnant so Emma would not have been alone. And i still think that it is completely selfish to send your child through and risk the fate of the world that it might not work the second time. And if multiple people could go through then Geppetto should have told Snow and Charming that so they could both to go through and come back for everyone. For him to do this behind Snow and Charming’s back also seems wrong.

And we don’t know what is between them and Geppetto, like how they got to know each other, but something to get Geppetto on their war counsel. So they are friends or allies or something. There is some sort of trust between them all. I just really don’t want that to be the answer.

[angiebelle]

I’m sure there will be a perfectly good explanation if it’s the case…maybe since Emma and Pinocchio were both children that is the only way it would work for two people, and they had to send a child to watch over Emma. There are many reasons why it might have worked that way- it doesn’t have to be a selfish one. We don’t know what happened yet. I like the idea of August being Pinocchio. It connects him to Storybrooke. It gives him a reason to care about it’s people and about getting Emma to believe.

I don’t know…I could be wrong, but none of the other ideas make any sense to me….the only other potentially right one is that he is Bae, but too much time has passed for that unless he was some how stuck in time not aging at some point long before the curse and then traveled to our world….which I suppose could have been caused by the Blue Fairy- not totally implausible, but unlikely. And he was no where near the events of the pilot episode from what we can tell. I also don’t see much of a connection between Bae and August as characters, although we’ve only had a brief look at Bae.

[malchore]

@AngieBelle wrote:

Gepetto helped build the wardrobe- perhaps he hid his son there. The newspaper article about Emma as a baby said she was found by a 7 year old boy.

Actually the byline of the newspaper article said, “A local boy discovers a newborn wrapped in a blanket…” Well, the phrase “a local boy” would be used only if the boy is already known to the local community. Otherwise, what is he local to? That’s my basis why I don’t buy the theory that August is Pinocchio, or that Pinocchio was secretly sent through the wardrobe with Emma.

I don’t think August is Baelfire either, because the incident with Rumple took place centuries ago. Rumple would have had to made Baelfire immortal or something.

[Phee]

@hjbau wrote:

But the whole point was to send Snow through still pregnant so Emma would not have been alone.

@AngieBelle wrote:

I’m sure there will be a perfectly good explanation if it’s the case…maybe since Emma and Pinocchio were both children that is the only way it would work for two people, and they had to send a child to watch over Emma.

I haven’t watched the ep in a lil while, but from memory, the wardrobe didn’t really look big enough to have taken a woman who was 9 months pregnant, it was more child size. So it wouldn’t surprise me if Blue Fairy knew all along that Snow herself wouldn’t be going in that wardrobe.

Even if pregnant Snow HAD have gone through, the tree would have been protecting two, not one like Blue Fairy was telling everyone, so I think she wasn’t telling everyone the whole truth about whatever plan she was up to.

I wonder if the rules of the tree are similar to the rules of the hat: the same number have to come back through the portal as went in. Emma and August have both “come back” to the displaced Fairytale Land, (and so far, they’ve been the only two people from outside Storybrooke who have ever come to town).

[Slurpeez]

I posted this on another thread, but I’ll add it here since it’s very relevant.
Has anyone else considered that Rumple could have transformed Pinocchio back into a puppet after he’d been turned into a real boy by the Blue Fairy? We’ve already seen how Rumple gave the potion to Jimminy in order to change his parents into puppets. However, Geppetto’s parents we turned by mistake. If puppet Pinocchio were made of enchanted wood, that could explain how Pinocchio could have been transported to the real world without having to go through the wardrobe. That could also explain why Pinocchio would want revenge against Mr. Gold in SB, as hinted at by the promo and summary description for episode 19. Also, regarding the hair color discontinuity, it’d be simple enough for August to color his hair brown to conceal his identity (after all, red hair is a dead give-away).

"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

[englishwatcher]

@obisgirl wrote:

I think the fact that this episode and the previous one are close together is a red-herring. @slurpeez108 wrote:

I’m glad we’ll finally get to see the Pinocchio/Geppetto back-story. I’m also hoping we can clear up whether August really is Pinocchio or not. It seems like we’ll be finding out answers to lots of the major questions that have been asked on the forum and elsewhere.

I’m hoping the Stranger doesn’t turn out to be Pinocchio. I want him to be a new character like Emma. But it could also be a totally unrelated story within the episode as well.

POSSIBLE SPOILER: EMMA IS THE SWAN PRINCESS???????

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