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"I could have the giant duck as my steed!" --Daniel Radcliffe
Keeper Of Tamara's Taser , Jafar's Staff, Kitsis’s Glasses , Ariel’s Tail, Dopey's Hat , Peter Pan’s Shadow, Outfit, & Pied Cloak,Red Queen's Castle, White Rabbit's Power To World Hop, Zelena's BroomStick, & ALL MAGICI agree with POM as to why it didn’t work in Skin Deep. Rumple has to believe that he deserves love and that somebody could really truly love him for it to work.
I agree. So, if Rumple were still cursed and Belle tried true love’s kiss again, would it work this time?
Right this very moment in the Onciverse? No. Why? Because Rumple is still incredibly doubtful about his ability to BE LOVED. He needs some self healing before another can come in and show their love for him.
Ok.
Okay, I found this absolutely adorable Rumbelle comic that I just had to share.
http://imgur.com/gallery/OuNrY
My belief about TLK as we’ve seen it in the show is that both parties must truly love the other–to the point they’re willing to sacrifice for the other. Haven’t time to detail all the examples, but the one moment when TLK almost worked for Belle and Rumple, he’d sacrificed the obvious pleasure he had in her company by letting her go, and she’d sacrificed her freedom to come back in the belief she could help him get free of his curse.
While I think there ARE moments when TLK should have worked later by this theory, I think that Rumple was never completely willing after that moment for even a split second to give up his power for Belle–save when he sacrificed his life to save her and Bae. That, which is all wrapped up in his belief that he’s unlovable and helpless without his power, is why TLK hasn’t worked for them since. (The fact that he DID give her the dagger briefly on their wedding night, though…)
Keeper of Belle's Gold magic, sand dollar, cloaks, purple FTL outfit, spell scroll, library key, copy of Romeo and Juliet, and cry-muffling pillow, Rumple's doll, overcoat, and strength, and The Timeline. My spreadsheet: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6r8CySCCWd9R0RUNm4xR3RhMEU/view?usp=sharing
My belief about TLK as we’ve seen it in the show is that both parties must truly love the other–to the point they’re willing to sacrifice for the other. Haven’t time to detail all the examples, but the one moment when TLK almost worked for Belle and Rumple, he’d sacrificed the obvious pleasure he had in her company by letting her go, and she’d sacrificed her freedom to come back in the belief she could help him get free of his curse.
While I think there ARE moments when TLK should have worked later by this theory, I think that Rumple was never completely willing after that moment for even a split second to give up his power for Belle–save when he sacrificed his life to save her and Bae. That, which is all wrapped up in his belief that he’s unlovable and helpless without his power, is why TLK hasn’t worked for them since. (The fact that he DID give her the dagger briefly on their wedding night, though…)
I think the reason why TLK hasn’t worked for RumBelle yet is because Rumple doesn’t believe he’s lovable. It’s such an ingrained fear in him. His father abandoned him as a child, Milah left him, Baelfire left him, Cora left him, etc etc. By the time Belle came along, Rumple was so used to people rejecting him that he was waiting for Belle to do the same. When TLK started working originally, it wasn’t until Belle uttered the words “any curse can be broken” hat it failed. In that moment, Rumple believe it to be a trick, that it wasn’t real.
For TLK to work, both parties have to believe in the love. Belle and Rumple love each other, but Rumple doesn’t believe it will last despite how much he wants it to because past experience has taught him that it doesn’t last, he’s always left alone. Unfortunately for Rumple, the more he tries to keep Belle close, by hiding things from her, the more he ends up pushing her away. He is his own worst enemy.
All magic comes with a price!
Keeper of FelixWell it won’t work now at all. There is no curse to break. Rumbelle are never going to get their Beauty and the Beast TLK.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"Well it won’t work now at all. There is no curse to break. Rumbelle are never going to get their Beauty and the Beast TLK.
They might…..if Rumple takes the curse back on himself to save Emma as he sees it as his burden to bear then Belle saves him with TLK. The B&tB TLK was the END of their story, RumBelle are still in the middle of theirs……or it could all just be wishful thinking.
All magic comes with a price!
Keeper of FelixI’m gonna curl up in PoM’s wishful thinking corner. There is still a chance that B&B will get their kiss in the end. I’m not quite ready to buy the idea that they’re going to give it to CS instead.
Keeper of Belle's Gold magic, sand dollar, cloaks, purple FTL outfit, spell scroll, library key, copy of Romeo and Juliet, and cry-muffling pillow, Rumple's doll, overcoat, and strength, and The Timeline. My spreadsheet: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6r8CySCCWd9R0RUNm4xR3RhMEU/view?usp=sharing
It’s such an ingrained fear in him. His father abandoned him as a child, Milah left him, Baelfire left him, Cora left him, etc etc
Ok, when did baelfire abandoned Rumple?was this something shown this season? Because i was sure that was the other way around, Rumple was to scared and abandoned baelfire at the portal. So they rewrote that on S4 as well?
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It’s such an ingrained fear in him. His father abandoned him as a child, Milah left him, Baelfire left him, Cora left him, etc etc
Ok, when did baelfire abandoned Rumple?was this something shown this season? Because i was sure that was the other way around, Rumple was to scared and abandoned baelfire at the portal. So they rewrote that on S4 as well?
I think it’s not so much that Baelfire actually left, but Rumple’s perception of their separation. Bae didn’t willingly leave, we know that, but Rumple – believing he is unlovable- could definitely perceive it that way. I think it’s more that Rumple believes he is unloveable, therefore any love he receives is fleeting.
And I do think there’s hope for Rumbelle. I think Rumple is going to have a tough time trying to figure out who he is – or who he wants to be – without the DO. And I can’t imagine Belle won’t be the driving force behind that. So it may not be the DO curse Rumbelles kiss cures but God knows it could be any of a plethora of others! Though I am sad it’s probably NOT going to be the DO curse, I definitely think there’s a Rumbelle curse-braker kiss in the future!
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