Belle & Rumplestiltskin Relationship Thread

[PriceofMagic]

In the Outsider, Belle wore the same outfit for at least a day and a half. She wore it when Rumple told her about the shawl when it was dark, she wore it in the library and on Hook’s ship during the day then she wore it again at the town line that night.

I do agree the party was the night before but I’m thinking RumBelle didn’t make it home when they chose not to go to the party.

[angiebelle]

I think when Belle came to the shop at the beginning out the Outsider, that was the still the same day as we see in the rest of the episode- it was just really early in the morning and it hadn’t gotten light out yet.

[betsypaige24]

betsypaige24 wrote: I know my theory is heartbreaking, sigh, but what isn’t heartbreaking when it comes to Rumbelle? What Belle wouldn’t have given to have protected his chest from the dagger the way she’s almost protecting it here, feeling his heart beat strongly beneath hers, feeling the warmth of his body beneath her fingers and the shirt.The kiss ,the way they are clinging to each other’s necks……..I can’t look at this scene the same since the winter finale

That’s why I like your theory the best. Rumbelle is just ANGST all the time and so the clothing is just more “here, let us kill you all with things”

Yep……..Maybe the writers are more involved than we think or the costume designers more into the writing because people noticed that in S2, Gold wore darker colors to indicate a  that he was more serious (Belle in danger/Belle memory loss) than in S1 (where he wore his mask and also lots of bright colors).   This makes sense because when Belle returned early in the season, we saw him wear a gray (not dark) suit with a purple shirt…..and the suit/tie/hanky  combos we see himk in post-NL return are navy (not black) with a blues, reds, etc.. In other words, brighter, happier colors………not solemn at all.

Yep, the Outsider episode all happened on the same day. Many people thought Rumbelle made love that night, before she went to the library in the morning, because she was still wearing the same clothes. However, as recently as a couple of months ago, Emilie said that she didn’t think Rumbelle had ever “done it” and around the same time, Jane said it hadn’t been established (or not) as canon whether they’d ever “done it”.  I firmly believe they never did it in the Croc even though many think they did. I think Belle looked for him in bed because he was there comforting her;  had they actually slept together, there’s no way Gold would have gotten fully dressed in a suit and tie just to go to his “lab”.  I also don’t think they did it when Belle was “Lacey”. Eddy said they kissed a lot (off screen – everything happens off screen for them, but in this case, I’m ok with it, lol) – and that’s as far as I think Gold would ever have gone with her.

In any case, in the day and a half that Gold was back in SB, he and Belle clearly made up for it with LOTS and lots and lots of sex, lol:  in the shop before the tie scene, post-tie scene, the morning before they went to the diner, probably after the diner……though maybe not, lol.  I think they were going back to the pink house for some of that when they were interrupted….Ok, then after the town line scene, perhaps before the cemetary scene……I would say post-cemetary scene, but that’s just so odd because they go to Gold’s shop right then……..and then when they emerge it’s daylight?

[PriceofMagic]

I think RumBelle did share a bed on a regular basis in The Crocodile but hadn’t slept together at that point. Mainly because of their own awkwardness around each other. They’d just reunited after 30 years and had parted on bad terms so I could see them not feeling comfortable about being that intimate with each other yet. Throughout season 2 RumBelle have been shown to be sleeping in the same bed separately so I think at that stage they were happy to just be able to hold each other in their arms without throwing sex into the mix.

I agree that Rumple didn’t sleep with Lacey. Whilst he knew he had to keep her interested enough so that she wouldn’t go looking elsewhere, she wasn’t Belle. I think Milah’s infidelity scarred Rumple enough that, besides feeling unlovable at times, he would NEVER cheat on Belle. Sleeping with Lacey would’ve felt akin to cheating on Belle.

I think RumBelle may have slept together once Belle got her memory back. As far as they knew they were going to die, they were both emotional so why not? They definitely slept together IMO once Rumple returned from Neverland, I loved how subtle the scene was, it said so much with just a change of clothes and smirking.

All magic comes with a price!

Keeper of Felix

[betsypaige24]

I think RumBelle did share a bed on a regular basis in The Crocodile but hadn’t slept together at that point. Mainly because of their own awkwardness around each other. They’d just reunited after 30 years and had parted on bad terms so I could see them not feeling comfortable about being that intimate with each other yet. Throughout season 2 RumBelle have been shown to be sleeping in the same bed separately so I think at that stage they were happy to just be able to hold each other in their arms without throwing sex into the mix. I agree that Rumple didn’t sleep with Lacey. Whilst he knew he had to keep her interested enough so that she wouldn’t go looking elsewhere, she wasn’t Belle. I think Milah’s infidelity scarred Rumple enough that, besides feeling unlovable at times, he would NEVER cheat on Belle. Sleeping with Lacey would’ve felt akin to cheating on Belle. I think RumBelle may have slept together once Belle got her memory back. As far as they knew they were going to die, they were both emotional so why not? They definitely slept together IMO once Rumple returned from Neverland, I loved how subtle the scene was, it said so much with just a change of clothes and smirking.

I agree with everything you said. Additionally,  in the Rumpled Lace scene from 2nd star, when Gold places the necklace on Lacey’s neck, he (IMO) purposely does not turn her around (as he actually did in Belle’s dream in the Croc, when he gave her the necklace).  With LaceBelle facing forward,  he could imagine and wish and hope this were Belle;  his hands hover over her and then he places them on her shoulders, but for me there is no doubt that Gold is dreaming of Belle.   This person may look like Belle, have her gorgeous body, but she’s not….When he looks into her eyes, it’s cool, shallow, Lacey, not warm, kind, compassionate Belle.    Skin Deep didn’t just refer to Belle falling in love with a “beast”, seeing below the surface, IMO it easily could have referred to  his falling in love with her. As stunning as she is, Rumple fell in love with Belle for her inner beauty, her kindness, bravery, intelligence, compassion, spirit, etc…….not for her looks.

See, that last point bothers me about the shop reunion (which I LOVED).  It’s clear they would have made love, so why not show us that, show us them going into the back at least, give us an indication?

LOL I didn’t even think it was that subtle, lol. I mean, it wasn’t clunky like with Snowing, but they made it perfectly clear with that tie scene and then Gold in the diner that not only did they make love, but they had the best sex EVER…..a LOT.  “Perfect..” “Thank you” . “You’re welcome”.  Someone did GOOD that night, lol.

God this scene hurts so much!
Gold’s emotion generally overcomes his logic, which I love about him. As desperate as he is in this scene, panicky (and who can blame him?) because he doesn’t have much time to save Belle and Bae’s lives, he is STILL able to gather himself in order to do what he needs to do.

 

By the time we see him outside, he has made his decision and come to terms with it. Gold acts with the firmness and decisiveness of one who knows he is doing the right thing.  I LOVE that moment when he thrusts the dagger into his father’s back, with every ounce of energy he has, crying out “I’m ready!”. It’s just such a bold act, a loving, sacrificial act – and that is when the gold light first appears. It’s his willingness to sacrifice his life for everything that has ever meant anything to him that ultimately breaks the curse. More than that, though, it was his journey to get to this point that is so beautiful and rewarding in a tragic way
Here, though, here is the moment of truth.  Even if he chooses to cut off his hand and reattach it without the cuff, even if he chooses magic to battle Pan, Gold knows that won’t be the end of things. He and his father will continue to battle……yes, but Belle and Bae will still likely suffer and still likely die (and there is no return from death). The only way to put an end to it, to ensure that no harm comes to them, is for him to kill Pan – and to die himself.
It’s amazing to me that Gold is able, in a few moments, to decide that YES, he will save Belle and Bae even if it means his own death.  Think about how suddenly this all happened. Just two days ago, he thought Pan was trapped forever and he had a happy future with Belle and Bae.  Then Pan did the old switcharoo, and really there wasn’t that much time between then and the sacrifice.  So in essence,  Gold still thought he  had a future up until maybe half hour or so before his last scene. Then, he had to make the ultimate decision. My baby had such little time to process the fact of his own death……it’s heartbreaking. Everything happened so quickly – even the goodbyes.

[PriceofMagic]

LOL I didn’t even think it was that subtle, lol. I mean, it wasn’t clunky like with Snowing, but they made it perfectly clear with that tie scene and then Gold in the diner that not only did they make love, but they had the best sex EVER…..a LOT. ”Perfect..” “Thank you” . “You’re welcome”. Someone did GOOD that night, lol.

Lol, that’s what I mean about the subtleness of that scene. RumBelle have such great chemistry that everyone knows what they got up to. Charming were practically spelling out what they planned to do.

All magic comes with a price!

Keeper of Felix

[RumplesGirl]

betsypaige24 wrote: LOL I didn’t even think it was that subtle, lol. I mean, it wasn’t clunky like with Snowing, but they made it perfectly clear with that tie scene and then Gold in the diner that not only did they make love, but they had the best sex EVER…..a LOT. ”Perfect..” “Thank you” . “You’re welcome”. Someone did GOOD that night, lol.

Lol, that’s what I mean about the subtleness of that scene. RumBelle have such great chemistry that everyone knows what they got up to. Charming were practically spelling out what they planned to do.

Screwball’s essay about the difference between Snowing and Rumbelle and sexy time for this episode is well worth the read if you haven’t

"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"

[betsypaige24]

betsypaige24 wrote: LOL I didn’t even think it was that subtle, lol. I mean, it wasn’t clunky like with Snowing, but they made it perfectly clear with that tie scene and then Gold in the diner that not only did they make love, but they had the best sex EVER…..a LOT. ”Perfect..” “Thank you” . “You’re welcome”. Someone did GOOD that night, lol.

Lol, that’s what I mean about the subtleness of that scene. RumBelle have such great chemistry that everyone knows what they got up to. Charming were practically spelling out what they planned to do.

Oh, lol  – duh!  Yeah, The Charmings practically had to draw pictures for everyone……Everyone can just tell that Rumbelle wants to do THAT all the time, lol. The one time in ages that I liked the Charmings was when Gold brought them the potion in the diner. It was rather obvious what he had been up to and I think they knew it. Ah  my baby, he didn’t even take time to brush his hair……nor did he bother hiding how breathless he was.  He might as well have been wearing a billboard, lol

RG, I remember that – that was wonderful, lol. I’m in the mood to read that again!

[ready_to_rumbelle]

They’d just reunited after 30 years.

Exactly. And he was definitely “comforting” her if that’s what you call it today. Sorry, but I can’t imagine anyone wearing that kind of night gown and parading around in it without a robe like Belle did in Croc if one’s significant other hasn’t seen them wearing less…

[RumplesGirl]

PriceofMagic wrote: They’d just reunited after 30 years.

Exactly. And he was definitely “comforting” her if that’s what you call it today. Sorry, but I can’t imagine anyone wearing that kind of night gown and parading around in it without a robe like Belle did in Croc if one’s significant other hasn’t seen them wearing less…

See I think anything before 310 was left vague for fan interpretation.

For me, Rumple would have hesitated greatly before sleeping with Belle after the curse lifted. Sometimes he seems like an old fashioned kind of guy. We’d want to make sure they were in a good place relationship wise before they took it to the next level, even if they had been apart for 30 years.

"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"

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