Belle & Rumplestiltskin Relationship Thread

[PriceofMagic]

I didn’t know the pink house was sold! That’s such a shame. I too would like to see more RumBelle at their house. Maybe they should have a line of dialogue that Rumple sold his house because of the bad memories and bought a better one with Belle where they can make new memories.

[RumplesGirl]

So they can’t film at the Pink house anymore? They better get a set built if they’re going back to Storybrooke! I need Domestic!Rumbelle in that house. I’ve read too many fanfics for it not to happen.

Sad 🙁

Rumple would have a pink house, little imp.

"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"

[ready_to_rumbelle]

Yeah, it’s a shame that they can’t use it anymore but there is still Belle’s apartment above the library. They could just do some slight set changes of Snowing’s and there you go, problem solved…

It’s a wee bit strange to have them only in Gold’s shop but NEVER show the place where Belle lives, though it would be more fitting for certain moments, like you guys already remarked. But I have high hopes for season 3 B 🙂

[RumplesGirl]

Yeah, it’s a shame that they can’t use it anymore but there is still Belle’s apartment above the library. They could just do some slight set changes of Snowing’s and there you go, problem solved… It’s a wee bit strange to have them only in Gold’s shop but NEVER show the place where Belle lives, though it would be more fitting for certain moments, like you guys already remarked. But I have high hopes for season 3 B

I really wanted to see her apartment!

"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"

[PriceofMagic]

I’m not entirely sure Belle’s apartment is right above the library. We know there’s the clock tower but that’s it I think. Belle’s apartment seems to be elsewhere.

All magic comes with a price!

Keeper of Felix

[RumplesGirl]

I’m not entirely sure Belle’s apartment is right above the library. We know there’s the clock tower but that’s it I think. Belle’s apartment seems to be elsewhere.

I think it’s attached behind the library. Rumple says it’s “in back”

"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"

[betsypaige24]

They must have known they were going to NL, so I believe ONCE just basically stopped renting the Pink House….and then subsequently it was sold.

When Gold eventually makes his way back to SB, they HAVE to do something. I did think of Belle’s apartment, but I’m sure there’s no set for that either. This actually annoys me, that they have no set for either or apartment or his (their) house.   S4 Rumbelle (rolling my eyes as I assumme they will be together – I can’t imagine them apart again) needs to have a place outside of the shop.  That’s a place of business, not a home. Plus, I doubt Gold would want to spend that much time there; how much business does he really do? It was pretty evident in The New Neverland that he was  very happy to close up shop early and spend all his time shagging with Belle

Price, I actually would kind of love to see  Rumbelle buy a house together even though I LOVED that PH. The glimpses that we got in the Croc were wonderful – Belle had brought light into it, the way she brought light into the Dark Castle. There were roses, and unbelievably beautiful kitchen…..and the bedrooms, sigh.

 

[Marty McFly]

this will probably be very unpopular here, but I am almost sure Rumpel will stay dead throughout season 3b (maybe even 4), and this is why I think so:

(wait, don’t worry, Rumbellers, we WILL see passionate rumbelle kisses… in Belle’s dreams. and I’m sure we’ll see some relationship action in flashbacks)

Belle and Rumpel have something very special between them, and it is much greater than just true love. because of the places they both came from – He never really had anything like true love, and for centuries so one has ever even patted him on the shoulder. he has really lived in darkness and isolation. Belle OTOH came from a place where she was forced to marry someone superficial and behave like a proper woman of the times while in her heart all she wanted was adventure and a chance to be a hero. she was too smart to be stuck in a life like the one she had. she needed love to be layered and mysterious.

but most importantly, she was a hero to go with him, and she then brought out the hero in him.

Gold’s story arc was terribly painful and tragic and beautiful. we thought at first that all his problems began with him becoming the DO, but we later realized that his tragic life started long long before that when he was abandoned by his evil but extremely powerful magical father and that he himself in a way created neverland by giving the bean and naming PP. (names… they make things real)

so after all these years and everything he has been through, he finally meets a woman who not only loves him, she would stay with him. but he still wouldn’t just take her and forget his beloved son. so on to the making of the curse, belle is locked up etc. when he finally finds his son and then thinks he will die, it would have been an ending, but not a very happy one. there was no real reconciliation between father and son. and Belle didn’t even remember who he was.

so if we look at Rumpelstiltskin’s story arc, his story is basically finished. the end is tragic but really beautiful and epic. it’s VERY tragic because it happened the way it did – after he started believing that it will end differently, after he had his survival instincts kick in so powerfully, that even after he knew all was lost he still struggled with that cuff so desperately, and tried to cut his hand (I bet he did cut off his hand but the cuff would not allow it) he wanted SO MUCH to live and have that future with Belle…
for him to come back from the dead now would be anticlimactic to say the least. and after he’s back? there is really no story there anymore. OUAT is not about heart disease or toothbrush drama. and even if Belle has to go to Hades to save him, this story would be fantastic and wonderful, but then it would end. besides, if we think about next half of the season, it’s about something completely different. there will be no time for Rumpel hunting in Hades or wherever.

so where can they go from here? I think that the only thing that would make his heroism more epic is if he had knowledge of all the evils coming their way (maybe not a perfectly clear picture of the future, you know, it’s a puzzle and all) and in real Rumpelstiltskin style, he would have an answer to all the problems that will be coming up. there would be objects, scrolls, and who knows what other magical items hidden in his castle or his shop that will show themselves through Belleexsactly when they will be needed to defeat whatever evil comes their way.

the words he said before he died might have very specific meaning. he said he used the curse to find Bae TO ENSURE THAT HE HAD A CHANCE AT HAPPINESS. this line made me stop and think… if he’d stayed with Emma and raised Henry and other children in Tallahassee, wouldn’t that be happiness? maybe not, because maybe there were other evils lurking that would take that happiness away… (now we know that Henry was in real danger of being kidnapped one day by GoaT and be shipped to neverland to die. how would his parents protect him in Tallahassee?) who knows what other evils are lurking? wouldn’t it be great if Rumpel saw all that from the beginning and prepared for it? (by making Emma powerful, by teaching Regina by leaving Belle behind, and in charge of who knows what weapons?)

when Gold said “now I’m ready” before plunging the knife, I’m ready can mean very specifically, that now he finally IS ready. His plans for the future are complete, he can leave the rest of the work to Emma, Regina, and the rest of them. all these people are going to be there to protect his son and ensure that he has a chance at happiness.

the only things that were unexpected in his fortunetelling were Belle and Henry. I don’t think he knew that he’d have anyone who would truly love him, and he didn’t realize that the child of his “Good Witch” that he sort of created, would be his own bloodline as well!
that’s why I think that when Belle goes to wherever to find him and bring him back to life, it won’t only be her lonely adventure, but everyone will join her and look for a way to bring him back. and it will probably happen toward the end of the series.

oh, and I have a feeling Henry will play a big part there too

[PriceofMagic]

Rumple’s story is far from over Marty. RumBelle will get there happy ending eventually. To end Rumple’s story where it is at the moment is basically depressing. The show is supposed to be about hope. If Rumple’s story ends now then all of Rumple’s character development would of been pointless because he would’ve been screwed anyway and it goes against what the show is about.

“Villains don’t get happy endings” whilst that is true, Rumple is not a villain, he’s a hero, and the show so far has been charting his journey from villain to hero. Rumple has redeemed himself but maintaining that redemption is the next step in his story.

All magic comes with a price!

Keeper of Felix

[betsypaige24]

Rumple’s story is far from over Marty. RumBelle will get there happy ending eventually. To end Rumple’s story where it is at the moment is basically depressing. The show is supposed to be about hope. If Rumple’s story ends now then all of Rumple’s character development would of been pointless because he would’ve been screwed anyway and it goes against what the show is about. “Villains don’t get happy endings” whilst that is true, Rumple is not a villain, he’s a hero, and the show so far has been charting his journey from villain to hero. Rumple has redeemed himself but maintaining that redemption is the next step in his story.

I think, actually, his story is just beginning. PART of his story is over – that journey that he needed to take to get back to himself, his best self……no actually, BETTER than his  best ever self. However, you’re exactly right – imagine if he’s dead now or if he dies later on? What exactly was the point?  Redemption via death, IMO, is a cop out – it’s the sort of shock you want to give viewers if you’re a hack writer. Then, the shock is over and what else is there? What about the rest of  his life? A life where he could do so many positive things to help people – and also, a life where he could finally be truly happy?  Like you said, he’s a hero and he’s been redeemed – not just via this glorious sacrificial act, but in how he fought and struggled valiantly against the curse, fought and struggled to be a better man. It was Gold’s efforts that transformed him and that ultimately allowed him to break his own curse.

Now not only is maintaining that redemption an ongoing part of his story, now what about all the ramifications of his breaking the curse? He’s now a mortal – that brings with it very specific issues, ESPECIALLY as relates to Belle and his future. I’ve mentioned this before, but here are some concerns he might have that the show NEEDS to deal with:

1) His physical condition.  Is his heart in good working order? How much stress have the years taken on him?

2) His physical age. He’s 20 plus years older than Belle; is he concerned about being an aging father?  There’s a very good chance he will die well before Belle

These are issues that could give Rumbelle some amazing story; Bobby and Emilie would KILL it.  There’s just NO way these two can be separated again past S3; if the writers do that in S4, I think they WILL lose most Rumbellers who are barely hanging on now. It’s time that they start with the rest of their lives. Get them engaged……and frankly, I don’t see why they can’t get married before the end of their show (which would be completely cliched).  There’s still so many interesting things that could happen to them and with them that wouldn’t quite give them their HEA yet. For one thing, what happens if Gold is chronically ill? What happens if Belle is ill? What happens if she has a difficult pregnancy?  A miscarriage?  The baby is premature, the baby is sick. Real life is far more dramatic than fiction…and in Bobby and Emilie’s hands, god, how great would any of these stories be?

These are very real issues and no, I’m not asking ONCE to be a disease of the week show, but people fall in love with shows generally because of characters and character based stories. I’m not asking the show to drop the fantasy aspect of it, but I’m expecting them to deal with the very real issues that human beings face.

Oh and as for Gold saying he’s “ready”, I don’t see it that way at all.  For one thing, I don’t think he could ever really be ready to leave his son and especially Belle. He accepted that Bae could be happy without him because parents have to let go of their children all the time….and I think that knowing Bae knew that he loved him,  knowing that Bae loved him, was almost enough. That’s why he was able to tell Bae that he could be happy..without him. With Belle, it’s different.  His personal happiness was all with her, he desperately wanted a future with her, a family; they had been deprived of precious time with each other and that  killed him, as much as the dagger was killing him. It’s why he gazed at her as the last thing he wanted to see before he faced his father.   I can’t even imagine what was going through his mind, the last hours that they had spent together, as one – intimately joined forever….and now it was truly coming to an end. He knew Belle could never have her happy ending without him, hence he couldn’t promise her happiness.

To me, that moment when he thrusts the dagger into his father’s back, with every ounce of energy he has, crying out “I’m ready!” is incredible; it’s a truly empowering moment for Gold.  He’s taking control of his life, his destiny; it’s a bold act, a loving, sacrificial act – and that is when the gold light first appears. It’s his willingness to sacrifice his life for everything that has ever meant anything to him that ultimately breaks the curse. More than that, though, it was his journey to get to this point that is so beautiful and rewarding in a tragic way,

One more thing: I don’t agree  that he tried to cut off his hand; he specifically didn’t do that.  I’ve said this before, but he has made his decision and come to terms with it. Gold acts with the firmness and decisiveness of one who knows he is doing the right thing.  He’s so incredibly fierce, and protective of his Belle and Bae, and he’s ready to pay the price in doing the only thing that can be done. Even if he chose to cut off his hand and reattach it without the cuff, even if he chose magic to battle Pan, that wouldn’t have been the end of things. Gold knew that he and his father would continue to battle……and that Belle and Bae would still likely suffer and still likely die (and there is no return from death). The only way to put an end to it, to ensure that no harm comes to them, is for him to kill Pan – and to die himself.

 

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