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December 29, 2013 at 10:19 pm #234300RumplesGirlKeymaster
One of the most common TV tropes: no body no death. The gold light was highly significant. He has broken his DO curse and is now trapped somewhere. He’ll be back.
[adrotate group="5"]"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"December 29, 2013 at 10:51 pm #234312Marty McFlyParticipantOne of the most common TV tropes: no body no death. The gold light was highly significant. He has broken his DO curse and is now trapped somewhere. He’ll be back.
I know, everybody keeps saying that. but the story the story is that he died. so to bring him back too early would be just blah. we can’t mix so many adventures in one half season. Belle can’t be busy gold hunting while all the other characters are battling who knows what evils. the best way to continue this story is for PEOPLE to realize how much they ALL need Rumpelstiltskin because really he is and always was their LAST HOPE. their ONLY hope sometimes. in some cases. even though he helped them through making deals. he was still always there. he was still always READY TO HELP. (for a price, of course, but always ready to help) and then EVERYONE will see the benefit in sending Belle to wherever so she can save him.
also, if we don’t get at least a few episodes with the characters finding stuff in his shop or his castle placed just for a certain event I’d be very disappointed in Rumpel’s “manipulation of the future” skills.
I MISS his character being all “I was exactly where I wanted to be” and “this was supposed to take place so I put it there”
I WANT him to have prepared for his child’s future to have placed things in places where his child can find and through blood magic or through his two students of magic (Regina and Emma) so that events can be manipulated for the greater good or whateverOK I see what you are saying about him choosing not to cut off his hand, it does make sense. he couldn’t let Belle be in danger, so yeah, I see what you’re saying. but I really think that when he was supposed to die from the dreamshade he wasn’t ready because he needed still to do many things to prepare for his son’s safety. I am HOPING that he shared some of his preparations with Belle and we could see the flashbacks of it. also, he wasn’t ready because Belle was not Belle and Cora was a threat and everything was just really dreary.
December 29, 2013 at 10:57 pm #234315RumplesGirlKeymasterthe story is that he died
the story is that he vanished.
he literally disappears from sight. we don’t know what really happened.
also, if we don’t get at least a few episodes with the characters finding stuff in his shop or his castle placed just for a certain event I’d be very disappointed in Rumpel’s “manipulation of the future” skills. I MISS his character being all “I was exactly where I wanted to be” and “this was supposed to take place so I put it there”
I think we’ll see hints of Rumple in 312 and 313 but only really see him for good starting in 314 and then he’ll come back in 315 forever.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"December 29, 2013 at 11:10 pm #234318Marty McFlyParticipantthe story is that he died
the story is that he vanished.
he literally disappears from sight. we don’t know what really happened.
no, he said “we both die” not we both vanish. whatever it ended up being, everyone was expecting death. so if they find him too soon it would be anticlimactic. it’s not like Neal where the characters thought he was dead but we all knew he wasn’t. this is very different.
December 29, 2013 at 11:15 pm #234320RumplesGirlKeymasterno, he said “we both die” not we both vanish. whatever it ended up being, everyone was expecting death. so if they find him too soon it would be anticlimactic. it’s not like Neal where the characters thought he was dead but we all knew he wasn’t. this is very different
Yes everyone thinks he is dead and maybe he did “die” but not DIE DIE. The vanishing and the light seem to indicate that something much bigger happened.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"December 30, 2013 at 12:55 am #234330betsypaige24ParticipantOne of the most common TV tropes: no body no death. The gold light was highly significant. He has broken his DO curse and is now trapped somewhere. He’ll be back.
Exactly…..that gold light, the moment he thrust that dagger even further into his father and finally reaching himself, indicated he did break the curse….. It also, metaphorically speaking, spoke to the enormous love he has in his heart; I found that scene to be spectacular and so touching, with that music…….
Yeah he said they were both going to die, but how would Gold have any idea that he’d be saved? Far from being anticlimactic, I find it incredibly exciting…..He believed he was going to die; he sacrificed everything, his life, his happiness, everything, for Belle and Bae….and he was (will be) rewarded. This is a game changer, the breaking of his curse. because of the many different stories that can be spun out from it…….
Marty, I’m not really sure why you think Gold was or is trying to prepare for Bae’s happiness…..His sacrifice was about Belle and Bae, not just Bae. His comment about Bae being happy without him was pretty straightforward – Bae is an adult, he will find his own way in life, he will find love and happiness, and that will come without his papa in his life. Gold was expressing faith that Bae will be happy – that’s all
December 30, 2013 at 2:25 am #234341ready_to_rumbelleParticipantOne of the most common TV tropes: no body no death. The gold light was highly significant. He has broken his DO curse and is now trapped somewhere. He’ll be back.
Yes and besides, Once might get into trouble if they kill Rumple or do the Hades story which some people think could happen, only to have Belle revive him. A & E have established and repeated several times that DEAD IS DEAD and if they change that now (with a sloppy excuse) people could ask, then why didn’t Regina do the same with Daniel and she would have been happy and no dark curse would have happened in the first place and no curse means no story/no TV show… You can’t just change your rules every time they don’t fit with your story, so IMO, Rumple is alive or if he’s not, he is and will stay dead (which seems to be very unlikely).
December 30, 2013 at 9:03 am #234375RumplesGirlKeymasterA & E have established and repeated several times that DEAD IS DEAD and if they change that now (with a sloppy excuse)
Blue Fairy came back (with maybe one of the dumbest excuses ever) but I think there were circumstances (shadow pulling is not true death or something).
But with Rumple, since it’s not the series finale, I think it’s clear he has more to do. Bobby might be gone for the first 2 episodes back but I have no doubt he’ll start popping up.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"December 30, 2013 at 9:21 am #234378Marty McFlyParticipantMarty, I’m not really sure why you think Gold was or is trying to prepare for Bae’s happiness…..His sacrifice was about Belle and Bae, not just Bae. His comment about Bae being happy without him was pretty straightforward – Bae is an adult, he will find his own way in life, he will find love and happiness, and that will come without his papa in his life. Gold was expressing faith that Bae will be happy – that’s all
because this is what Gold DOES he prepares everything in advance. he has a solution to every problem. and he always knows what the problems will be. this is why I SO love his character. “I’m exactly where I want to be” kind of guy. when he told Bae that he used the curse TO ENSURE [Bae] HAS A CHANCE AT HAPPINESS speaks volumes. and we will find out, hopefully, what he did to ensure Baes happiness.
with Belle it’s different. he didn’t expect her in his future, so he didn’t prepare for it. even when pan tells him to go, leave the island, start a family with Belle, he doesn’t because he knows that he needs to save his family. it’s CRUEL that when his survival instincts do finally kick in, thanks to Belle, and he finds a way to live, and believes he DOES has a future with Belle THAT’S when he dies. it’s just CRUEL!
for the whole second half of season 2 and the whole 1st half of S3 he was either dying or going to his death. finally in episode 10 we think “good, looks like he won’t die after all” and then we see ep 11December 30, 2013 at 2:23 pm #234424betsypaige24Participantbetsypaige24 wrote: RumplesGirl wrote: Marty, I’m not really sure why you think Gold was or is trying to prepare for Bae’s happiness…..His sacrifice was about Belle and Bae, not just Bae. His comment about Bae being happy without him was pretty straightforward – Bae is an adult, he will find his own way in life, he will find love and happiness, and that will come without his papa in his life. Gold was expressing faith that Bae will be happy – that’s all
because this is what Gold DOES he prepares everything in advance. he has a solution to every problem. and he always knows what the problems will be. this is why I SO love his character. “I’m exactly where I want to be” kind of guy. when he told Bae that he used the curse TO ENSURE [Bae] HAS A CHANCE AT HAPPINESS speaks volumes. and we will find out, hopefully, what he did to ensure Baes happiness.
with Belle it’s different. he didn’t expect her in his future, so he didn’t prepare for it. even when pan tells him to go, leave the island, start a family with Belle, he doesn’t because he knows that he needs to save his family. it’s CRUEL that when his survival instincts do finally kick in, thanks to Belle, and he finds a way to live, and believes he DOES has a future with Belle THAT’S when he dies. it’s just CRUEL!
for the whole second half of season 2 and the whole 1st half of S3 he was either dying or going to his death. finally in episode 10 we think “good, looks like he won’t die after all” and then we see ep 11IMO, all Gold meant was that he used the curse to find out if Bae was happy; that’s what he cared about…..He didn’t intend to use the curse to force himself back into son’s life, just to see that he was ok (not that he wouldn’t want to be a part of his life, of course he would have). Yes he plans things, but he can’t plan his son’s life, he can’t manipulate everyone and anything to give Bae what he thinks he wants – that’s the opposite of what Bae would want. IMO, he just believes his son will be happy, like most parents believe their children will be happy
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