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February 13, 2014 at 2:39 am #244749betsypaige24Participant
These were my comments as I read the script just a few moments ago:
Hmm, I love how Rumple is intrigued immediately upon Belle speaking.He wants her because she’s not a commodity…….oh, Rumple.
LOL So that “rather large………estate” line was in the script from the very beginning, lol
LOL the “cocky bastard”, lol; you can tell that Jane says this with great affection.
I WISH they had left the lines in about how Rumple put Belle in the dungeon and she called that, “pretty beastly, yes” (startled by her cheekiness………….)
This script answers the question – FOREVER is not his forever, it’s just the rest of her life; he wasn’t intending to make her immortal)
The curtain scene doesn’t sound all that great on paper, so Bobby and Emilie made it work…….brilliantly. Embarrassed? No mention of feelings? Hmmmm
Aww, Gold’s speech. I love the part about how love’s beauty must be admired and protected because he so wishes he would have done that with Belle. He didn’t protect her………..and the part about being cherished, sigh. It calls to mind how he tells her in Broken how the chipped up was the only thing he “truly cherished”.
Hmm, interesting that he didn’t weep at the end in the original script, but rather when Belle left. I prefer the episode’s conclusion…
I’m crying, sigh**Deleted scene: I get why it was deleted because Bobby and Em made it too hot to handle. They were clearly in love and lust in that clip and they weren’t supposed to be yet, lol……I still don’t understand why we never saw that recreated in SB
[adrotate group="5"]February 13, 2014 at 1:49 pm #244814Marty McFlyParticipantI read the script and
1) maybe he decided that she should come with him in exchange of saving her family from the Ogres is because he saw in her future that she will ALWAYS be locked up? I mean whenever she has any screen time she gets locked up even in Child Of The Moon she was locked up in her own library!2) that golden fleece!!!!! just shows that the writers already saw Rumpel being a child savior FROM THE BEGINNING!!! children mean a lot to him, that’s why he helped Henry with that burning room without asking for anything in return (or maybe Henry just reminded him of his own son and
is probably his grandson) and that’s why it pised me off when the writer of the season 2 finale made him almost kill Henry, that was very out of Character, EVEN with Lacy convincing him…Belle wears that blue peasant dress (she looks so nice in it) when he sees her in vision form. that dress was prettier than her ugly worn out yellow one
February 13, 2014 at 3:26 pm #244821betsypaige24ParticipantThe Golden Fleece is a mythological artifact, just FYI – it doesn’t have anything to do with children
February 16, 2014 at 1:08 pm #245279betsypaige24ParticipantNow I’m just a wreck. For one thing, the way Gold stares at Belle as if he’s trying to memorize her to take with him into eternity is heartbreaking; sob. The way hes trying to convey with his eyes everything he can’t possibly say is gorgeous – words can’t express how he feels and this is like a private communication between the two of them that is ONLY meant for them.
This letter is so perfect, sob…and the idea of Gold’s ghostly form watching over her is so beautiful……..I can’t.
The original of this is a famous letter a soldier wrote his wife during the Civil War. http://www.civilwarpoetry.org/FAQ/ballou.html . I have always loved it as it really defines love. Thought it was great for Rumbelle
February 16, 2014 at 5:52 pm #245315sweetgrassParticipantI never entered this thread but wanted to respond to a post without overtaking the Who’s filming Thread.
I think Belle would’ve fallen for pre-dark one Rumple. She loves him for who he is, not because of his power. Rumple does love Belle, they’re true love.
belle was brave, well off, adventurous. pre-dark Rumple was a snivelling coward who would not scarifice himself for anyone. I don’t think Belle would find that attractive. He was a very passive man who would rather wallow in self-pity and poverty than to try to move to a new town to make a fresh start. Why would Belle find that attractive? why would she give up a good life for a weak man who refused to help himself and his family in a healthy productive watt, instead of becoming the dark one? Belle would be just as exasperated as Milah but probably not as snappish.
Keeper of Hook and Emma's smoldering first kiss, a certain Pirate's sauciness, the Evil Queen's snarkiness, Grumpy's gruffness and a drop of true love to make it all go down smooth.
February 16, 2014 at 6:03 pm #245317betsypaige24ParticipantWell, I’m not even going to respond to this….. I could write reams about Gold, about Belle, about their love for each other, but I really don’ t care to try and convince someone who doesn’t like him or them………You have that right, but this post doesn’t belong here, IMO
February 16, 2014 at 6:15 pm #245321PriceofMagicParticipantI never entered this thread but wanted to respond to a post without overtaking the Who’s filming Thread.
I think Belle would’ve fallen for pre-dark one Rumple. She loves him for who he is, not because of his power. Rumple does love Belle, they’re true love.
belle was brave, well off, adventurous. pre-dark Rumple was a snivelling coward who would not scarifice himself for anyone. I don’t think Belle would find that attractive. He was a very passive man who would rather wallow in self-pity and poverty than to try to move to a new town to make a fresh start. Why would Belle find that attractive? why would she give up a good life for a weak man who refused to help himself and his family in a healthy productive watt, instead of becoming the dark one? Belle would be just as exasperated as Milah but probably not as snappish.
Belle loves Rumple for who he is, not because of his power. A lot of pre-dark one Rumple’s actions are because of the trauma he suffered as a child because of his father. Rumple didn’t want to turn into his father. Belle and Rumple may not have ever met had Rumple not become the dark one because time line wise Rumple would’ve been long dead before Belle was even born.
But to say the Belle would not have found Rumple attractive because of who he was is a massive insult to Belle’s character. Yes she’s brave and adventurous, but her “well-off” life involved her being betrothed to a man she didn’t love and who she thought was superficial and someone she couldn’t give her heart too. Belle would’ve been stuck in a loveless marriage. Is that option really better than a pre-dark one Rumple. I don’t think so. Belle is a hopeless romantic.
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Keeper of FelixFebruary 16, 2014 at 6:16 pm #245322RumplesGirlKeymasterRumbellers, I need you all to read THIS post.
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"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"February 17, 2014 at 1:32 am #245465ready_to_rumbelleParticipantbelle was brave, well off, adventurous. pre-dark Rumple was a snivelling coward who would not scarifice himself for anyone. I don’t think Belle would find that attractive. He was a very passive man who would rather wallow in self-pity and poverty than to try to move to a new town to make a fresh start.
Was Rumple really a sniveling coward when he tried to stay out of trouble for his son and did not agree to a duel with a (unlike him) completely healthy guy who is not only 3-4 inches taller than him but also trained in fighting with a sword? If you ask me that’s simply clever and is usually called survival instinct.
Was he passive when he broke into the Lord’s castle to steel a mystical dagger just because a beggar told him about its existence? Rumple did almost everything for Baelfire and even took a curse in order to save him. Yes, he did some horrible things after he had become the DO but he paid the price for his power/curse since Bae eventually left him and the rest is history.
February 17, 2014 at 10:20 am #245501Marty McFlyParticipantI never entered this thread but wanted to respond to a post without overtaking the Who’s filming Thread.
I think Belle would’ve fallen for pre-dark one Rumple. She loves him for who he is, not because of his power. Rumple does love Belle, they’re true love.
belle was brave, well off, adventurous. pre-dark Rumple was a snivelling coward who would not scarifice himself for anyone. I don’t think Belle would find that attractive. He was a very passive man who would rather wallow in self-pity and poverty than to try to move to a new town to make a fresh start. Why would Belle find that attractive? why would she give up a good life for a weak man who refused to help himself and his family in a healthy productive watt, instead of becoming the dark one? Belle would be just as exasperated as Milah but probably not as snappish.
actually, He was not a coward at all! he believed himself to be a coward, because everyone branded him so, but he didn’t look afraid to go to the Ogres war at all, in fact he seemed excited. The only reason he freaked out about dying in the war was because he was worried about his child growing up without a father.
Knowing Milah, as much as he loved her, he must have realized that she wouldn’t be a great parent to his child, so he needed to stay alive so he could protect his child. this is not cowardly at all, in fact it’s the ultimate kind of bravery = to go against the times against what is considered “IN” against what people admire, to do the “wrong” thing in order to protect the person you love.
that’s bravery, not cowardice.
Belle would have LOVED pre-curse Rumpel.
she ALSO hated conforming to her times and what people considered to be an “IN” woman (marrying a hottie – Gaston) no, she went against what was considered “honorable” to women of her time/place and went off with a beast “forever” and being shunned for it. for her “associations” with such a beast. so yeah, Rumpel and Belle have a lot of the same characteristics.
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