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May 28, 2014 at 10:21 am #271590Marty McFlyParticipant
Agreed IF this was the story of B&B (animated version etc.) But it isn’t. It was a much better story of ouat. WAS. Here there IS a son. This son is a BIG part of what makes the Beast a Beast. So for Beauty to ignore that, makes their story a kissing tale of B&B and nothing more.
The only reason I don’t hate Gold yet is because in my headcanon I believe that he is working on getting Neal back. And probably die in the process. belle has already disappointed me. (its the writing of course, not Belle. But then again Belle isn’t really Belle anymore. If she was still the same Belle, she would think first about Neal. Before ANYTHING else. She would KNOW that he was the most important person in his father’s life.
[adrotate group="5"]May 28, 2014 at 10:57 am #271594obisgirlParticipantI know I haven’t been a fan of rumbelle in awhile since my ‘shipping has been busy elsewhere but there’s more to rumbelle than simply being labeled as a kissing ‘ship.
Actually, when you consider how long they’ve been boyfriend and girlfriend (actual relationship status) it’s only been two seasons. And let’s not forget how times they’ve been separated. You can’t kiss someone when you’ve separated. And Belle brings out the best in Rumplr (the exception being that he couldn’t let go of his revenge and killed Zelena). She believes in him too that he can be better and that’s what makes Rumple’s actions heartbreaking. And a beauty can fall in love with a beast, see past his fleas and help him realize he is worthy of love.
So yes, it’s more than a kissing relationship.
May 28, 2014 at 12:02 pm #271596Marty McFlyParticipantIt WAS more than a kissing relationship. When Belle was trying to help him open up to her. When Belle helped him tear down some of the walls he put up after being betrayed and abandoned again and again, and after abandoning his own son, the only person that kept him from being a full fledged monster.
It was after he finally told her about his child and what he did in order to find him that their relationship was finally at a better level
Now their relationship became all about “being together” not about feelings anymore. Now hes alive and free so they can kiss.
Never mind HOW he came to be alive. Never mind IF he wants to be alive. Never mind WHY he had to be freed (WHY he became a slave in the first place)
May 28, 2014 at 12:17 pm #271598RumplesGirlKeymasterNow their relationship became all about “being together” not about feelings anymore. Now hes alive and free so they can kiss.
How is being together and feelings not the exact same thing?? They are together because they are in love. Love = feelings.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"May 28, 2014 at 12:51 pm #271601Marty McFlyParticipantBecause of HOW they came to be together.
This is a very big deal.
But no one seems to care because as long as they get Married. As long as they KISS.GOLD DOES NOT WANT TO BE THERE. He wants his SON to be there. It’t a big deal.
Unless Gold is not Gold anymore.
Unless all the LIFE came out of tne show
May 28, 2014 at 1:13 pm #271603RumplesGirlKeymasterBecause of HOW they came to be together.
This is a very big deal.What?? They were already falling in love BEFORE he told Belle about Nealfire. She knew he had a son, but never broached the subject until it was better to do so. You can tell they were in love during Lacey, Skin Deep (prior to discussion of Baelfire) and the S3 finale. They did not come together because of Baelfire. Rumple barely even discusses his son at all. He never brings him up to Belle–it’s Belle who brings him up.
GOLD DOES NOT WANT TO BE THERE. He wants his SON to be there. It’t a big deal.
Of course he wants Nealfire alive. He’s a parent. But if Rumple wanted to die, he’d kill himself. Simple. He killed Zelena to exact revenge and is now married and “moving on” because he feels that he defended his son. I have been very loud in my anger over this, but I *get* why Rumple killed Zelena. But Rumple is not suicidal. People who are suicidal do not get married.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"May 28, 2014 at 1:15 pm #271604obisgirlParticipantBless you @RumplesGirl.
May 28, 2014 at 1:36 pm #271606Marty McFlyParticipantMaybe I was watching a different show, but I remember the LAST time he thought his Baelfire was dead he was OK with Belle and all of SB and himself dying except for Henry. And then when he found Henry was in danger, he had something small to live for- save Henry at least.
And HOW they came to be together the HOW is that NEAL DIED. that’s how. Because of HOW they came to betogether is a VERY BIG DEAL.
And the fact tbat Gd would rather be dead than lose his precious child doesn’t make him suicidal. He was ALREADY dead
People keep forgetting that this is what killed his son.And people keep forgetting WHY he became a slave. He gavehis daggerto save Bae.
Doesn’t sound like a man HAPPY to be alive. If he would be tbe same character
May 28, 2014 at 1:38 pm #271607Marty McFlyParticipantIf he is still the same character he was then no, he isn’t happy to have been ressurrected.
But the question is, IS he the same character?
May 28, 2014 at 1:48 pm #271610RumplesGirlKeymasterMaybe I was watching a different show, but I remember the LAST time he thought his Baelfire was dead he was OK with Belle and all of SB and himself dying except for Henry. And then when he found Henry was in danger, he had something small to live for- save Henry at least.
Yes, he went on a suicide mission to Neverland. But S3B is not S3A. Neal died in Emma’s arms and with Rumple there and instead of being suicidal this time, he decided to exact revenge (the same way he did with Tamara) on Zelena. But as soon as he realized Neal was alive in NL, he didn’t want to die at all. He wanted to take down Pan and then go home and live his life. Rumple got his revenge on Zelena and is now trying to live a new life, heartbreak and all.
And HOW they came to be together the HOW is that NEAL DIED. that’s how. Because of HOW they came to betogether is a VERY BIG DEAL.
What? I don’t understand this at all. They were already unified in finding out who cursed them and to figure out what they wanted. Neal’s death gave them a name. It didn’t unite them to take down Zelena. They had already had the motivation.
And the fact tbat Gd would rather be dead than lose his precious child doesn’t make him suicidal. He was ALREADY dead
People keep forgetting that this is what killed his son.Wanting to be dead when you are alive the definition of being suicidal. Your point makes no sense.
And people keep forgetting WHY he became a slave. He gavehis daggerto save Bae.
Yes because PLOT. Because he should have just thrown the dagger to Belle who was standing right there but PLOT dictated otherwise. He wasn’t choosing to become a slave, he was choosing not to let go of his son.
Doesn’t sound like a man HAPPY to be alive. If he would be tbe same character
Did I say he’s happy? No. Of course he’s in pain. He lost a child. But that’s not what you’re arguing. You’re trying to make a case that Rumbelle is built on Neal and it isn’t.
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