Belle & Rumplestiltskin Relationship Thread

[obisgirl]

Marty McFly wrote:
Doesn’t sound like a man HAPPY to be alive. If he would be tbe same character

Did I say he’s happy? No. Of course he’s in pain. He lost a child. But that’s not what you’re arguing. You’re trying to make a case that Rumbelle is built on Neal and it isn’t.

I agree with RG.  Belle fell in love with Rumple because she saw that he could be a good man and there is beauty inside of him.  Yes, they talked about Bae but he wasn’t the reason they fell in love.

When Belle learned about True Love’s kiss, her reaction wasn’t ‘I’m going to kiss him because he has this son out there and that’s such a turn on!’  No, no.  She kissed them because she believed it was true love between her and Rumple and it is.  They truly love each other.

[Jenna_B]

Neal was probably the last person on OUAT who would want to see his family collapse because of his death. He told Emma to find Tallahassee – wouldn’t he want his father to move on as well?  To me the wedding was a way to show that you can’t just shut down when you lose someone – they will always be a part of you but you must still live. Not survive but live.  I  t hink Neal would be happy knowing Rumple and Belle married because Rumple is doing exactly what Neal would want him to do.

And Rumple did attempt to avenge Neal’s death by killing Zelena (and in my opinion that is the LAST thing Neal would want.)

[obisgirl]

I agree Jenna and good point about Neal. I doubt he would approve of father avenging him.

[Marty McFly]

How is being together and feelings not the exact same thing?? They are together because they are in love. Love = feelings.

because of HOW they came to be together. NEAL DIED. that’s how.

they wouldn’t have been together had he not resurrected Rumple. Belle would be alone.

geddit?

and this is a very big deal.

we are totes misunderstanding each other and it’s hilarious 😀

so Rumbelle IS built on Neal. If Neal was still alive, Rumblle would still be separated.

so Gold wanting to be dead equals Gold wanting his son to be alive.

does he want Neal to have stayed alive? yes. this means that he wants to have STAYED DEAD

does that make him suicidal? maybe. and I am still not removing the possibility that he might be working on getting himself killed again so that Bae would come back.

he didn’t go after Tamara. he bumped into her while doing something a lot more important. saving his son’s son. revenge was never his M.O. or Hook would have been long dead.

[RumplesGirl]

And Rumple did attempt to avenge Neal’s death by killing Zelena (and in my opinion that is the LAST thing Neal would want.)

If Neal knew what his father did….ooooh..

Know what? That’s what gals me. That’s what sticking in my craw. It’s not the lying or the murder itself. What Rumple did was so unbelievable disrespectful to Neal. Neal would be yelling and screaming at his father if he knew. Neal abhorred violence and dark magic like that.

*goes to corner and scream quietly*

"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"

[obisgirl]

If Rumple was truly suicidal,  I would think instead of proposing to Belle, the first thing he would have done after being free is use the knife to kill himself.  He did NO such thing.  

Rumple uses the dagger on himself, he dies and the DO power goes away.

[Marty McFly]

🙁

[PriceofMagic]

@Marty, If RumBelle is built on Neal, then by that logic, SwanFire is built on Rumple. Since Emma only met Neal again because RUMPLE made her go to Manhattan with him. Heck, SwanFire’s initial meeting was built on Rumple, Blue Fairy, Wendy and Peter Pan if you go by your logic.

I’m optimistic that RumBelle will overcome this obstacle together. They are one of the strongest ships on the show, hence the obstacles sent their way to challenge them have to be made of stronger stuff.

All magic comes with a price!

Keeper of Felix

[Marty McFly]

If Rumple was truly suicidal, I would think instead of proposing to Belle, the first thing he would have done after being free is use the knife to kill himself. He did NO such thing.

Rumple uses the dagger on himself, he dies and the DO power goes away.

but why? what would be the point of doing that?

I think Rumple believes a life needs to be exchanged.

I think Rumple believes that his life is not his own. He believes that he is living a borrowed life, borrowed from his son, and he means to give it back.

when they were getting “married” (sounded more like a funeral with that music) Belle believed that this marriage will last, but Gold knew better.

it will just be an illusion of happiness for him. and temporary. he knows what he is about to do (free his son from the past and erase himself from existence in the process) but he can’t tell Belle that.

he learned a short time ago that he has two choices as to how to live out the rest of this time: in screaming agony, or in a much more pleasant way. he opts for the more pleasant way even though it means lying to his beloved

[RumplesGirl]

And at this point, I’m bowing out.

Marty knows my stance on his views and I’m not reiterating them.

When it goes back to actual Rumbelle, I’ll come back.

"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"

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