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@charming wrote:
Maybe it will come down to you let Belle go and I’ll help Henry…..please.
Ooo! That actually sounds plausible. 😮 I’ve been waiting for Mr. Gold to use his please clause for something significant.
Weedith, I also like your theory about Rumpel writing the book. 😀
[adrotate group="5"]I know we have gone over this a few times in other places but I believe that Kitsis and Horowitz said that Gold only started to remember everything clearly when he heard Emma’s name. If that is that case, and if Henry received the book from MM a month before he went to get Emma, then who gave the book to MM – Gold wouldn’t remember having any reason to give the book to MM.
Now I am having trouble imaging Rumple writing the book in FTL with the intention of Henry reading it if Rumple had no way of knowing that Henry would even exist in SB. So now I’m no longer even sure if Rumple wrote the book. Maybe the Blue Fairy wrote it? But that wouldn’t explain why she would leave stories about Rumple out of it. It would seem like only Rumple, Bae, or Belle would have a reason to keep stories of Rumple out of the book but I don’t see how Bae or Belle would have all the information needed to write the book in the first place.
I could see the Blue Fairy giving the book to MM – I do think that she remembers FTL. However, the Belle theory is interesting. I agree that I don’t see a way that without a lot of help Belle could write the book by herself, but given that in the Disney movie Belle was associated with books and libraries it is an interesting possibility that she could have given MM the book. Assuming of course that she wasn’t already locked up. That might also explain why the Belle scene in Dreamy bothered me so much. I was assuming that she was nabbed by EQ right after she was kicked out of Rumple’s rather large estate, so it didn’t make sense to me that she was in a tavern having a pint. However, if she wasn’t locked up until she got to SB it would make a bit more sense. And if she somehow still remembered it could also explain why Regina hasn’t used the “Belle Card” – she’s not just a pawn for Gold (no pun intended), she’s actually a danger to Regina’s entire plan.
Between this and the Story Book thread that’s the main thing I’ve been thinking about OUaT right now. Who wrote that darn book! Maybe August did write it. He could have heard stories as a child. Did he deny writing it and just editing it?
It does make sense about Gold not writing it because he only remembered when he hear Emma’s name, but could he have written it as Rumple and it made it’s way to his shop in Storybrooke? Maybe whilst sitting in a dungeon cell? But he did seem a little insane in those first episodes.
Do we really have to wait until next season for this answer? Why wasn’t Henry more interested in who actually wrote it than just what it contained?
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There is no convincing reason for me to believe that Rumpelstiltskin’s stories have been left out of the book. For all we know, all the stories we’ve seen in FTL are in the book. The only thing we know for sure right now is that for some reason, Henry hasn’t yet identified Mr. Gold’s FTL counterpart. Of course, I’m happy to stand corrected if I made the wrong prediction.
Neither do I think that Belle is the one who wrote the book since I think Regina’s been holding her captive since FTL before the curse was enacted. We know the book contains stories of the curse being unleashed. I think it’s much more likely that the Blue Fairy is somehow responsible for making the book of fairy-tales since she had last minute preparations to make. Even if the author is someone else we’ve yet to meet, I think the Blue Fairy was still somehow instrumental in getting the savior, Emma, to safety and making sure that the book wound up in Henry’s possession. I think the Blue Fairy, who is very powerful, has kept her knowledge of FTL and she would be in a position to put the fairy-tale book into the school in which Mary Margaret found it to give to Henry.
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@Beauty & the Beast wrote:
Great theory! It would explain why Rumpel was left out of the book. And I aslo think it would be quite sweet if Belle left his story out to protect him. 😀
I’m hoping that the writers’ statements about Belle playing a very important role in the finale is a clue to her possibly being the author of the book. Or maybe they’re just hinting at her finally be rescued. Who knows? But I like the theory nonetheless. The way the show left off on Belle’s story was very “to be continued…” They made it seem as if her story would be coming back in full force later on in the season.
It would also help explian why Belle was still running around free after she left Rumpel. I’m almost beginning to think that Regina captured her after the curse took effect.
I’ve always wondered why Rumpel’s story was mysteriously missing from the book. Henry’s been able to pin-point every single fairytale character, but for some reason, he can’t figure out who Mr. Gold is. We’ve never seen any photos or mention of Rumpel in the book. Henry has never even spoken the name “Rumpelstiltskin.” I find that odd. He was able to figure out that Dr. Hopper was a cricket and that Ruby is a wolf, but he can’t figure out who Mr. Gold is? If Henry is so concerned with breaking the curse, you’d think he’s focus his energies on defeating Regina AND Mr. Gold. So, I’m pretty sure Rumpel is not in the book.
I fact, I think that’s going to be one of the big twists in the finale. Emma and Henry are going to try to break the curse, but since they have no knolwedge of the curse’s creator, they’re going to be terribly lost. The running thread in all of these stories is Rumpel. When you take him out of the equation, it all falls apart. He created the curse, he was at Cora’s origins and presumably Regina’s, he placed Charming in power, he gave Snow the forgetting potion, he help the Evil Queen enact the Dark Curse, he made sure that Emma would be the savior. He pushed all of these storylines forward, and without any knowledge of him, then the story doesn’t make sense. That’s why I think either he or someone connected to him wrote the book. His absence just seems to be very intentional.
And if the Blue Fairy did write it, then she did a rather shoddy job at it. She left out the man that started this whole story in the first place: Rumpel. She knew that Rumpel was planning to enact the curse, so why did she leave him out? It doesn’t make any sense.
An Empty Heart wrote: We’ve never seen any photos or mention of Rumpel in the book. Henry has never even spoken the name “Rumpelstiltskin.” I find that odd.
It’s never been proven that there is no mention of Rumpel in the book. It’s just a theory, and one with a hole in it. Actually, we know for certain of at least one mention of Rumpelstiltskin in the storybook that was shown in the pilot episode. There is a picture in Henry’s book of a torch in the magical mines in which Rumpel is being held captive. You see the camera pan from the picture in the storybook to the same scene in FTL in which Snow White questions Rumpel about how to break the curse. That is the very first encounter we viewers have of Rumpelstiltksin. Rumpel makes the prediction that on her 28th birthday, Snow’s daughter, Emma, will return and the final battle will begin. Henry knows all about Emma, her role as the savior, and the prediction that she’ll bring back the happy endings. I think it’s safe to assume that Rumpel’s prediction is made clear in the book and that’s how Henry knows all about Emma’s vital role.
Just because Henry hasn’t paired Mr. Gold=Rumpelstiltksin doesn’t at all mean there is no mention of Rumpel. As given in my example, there is at least one mention of his character in the book. I think Henry is still trying to figure out lots of different characters from the book and their fairy-tale counterparts. For instance, even though Henry is a pretty smart kid, he didn’t manage to figure out who August really is until August showed him his wooden leg and Henry said, “You’re Pinocchio.” He only just figured it out in episode 21. I agree that it’ll be a big advantage for Henry once he realizes just who Mr. Gold is though.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
It is an interesting theory to consider. The writers did say that Belle would play a bigger role in future episodes, and Belle was said to be a lover of books, both in the Disney film and the actual fairytale. It would be another good node to the original stories, and would give Belle’s character a larger purpose.
Also, we don’t really know how long Belle stayed at the castle–I’m inclined to think it was a decent amount of weeks, maybe more. Maybe while she lived with Rumpelstiltskin, he told her a few stories of his dealings and she wrote them down. It wouldn’t be too far-fetched if they both talked about some of the people he met and what he did, and it wouldn’t be hard to imagine Belle writing about it.
Yet she did leave the castle after many of the events happened, so not sure how she could have still wrote in the book. The option of the author being Rumpelstiltskin is much more stronger–his story does not seem to be present in the book. Neither about his son, nor about Belle–probably because he doesn’t want people to know about them.
I think the book was written in Fairytale land. The writers said in the interview they did the other day, that as far as Mary Margaret remembers, she has always had that book. That indicates it was there from the start of the curse. I think the most likely candidates are Rumple himself or Blue Fairy- Blue Fairy has known since the beginning that Rumple was working to create the curse. Maybe she wanted to make sure all the stories of her world were recorded before the curse struck.
I don’t think Belle is the author, but it’s not implausible so who knows?
I like the idea Belle may have written the book. It might also explain the Belle in the padded room being tormented by knowing the truth. Perhaps, the Evil Queen/Regina locked her away in a tower until she had compiled a book of every story in the land and could recite them by heart. As a component of the Dark Curse, all these stories were entombed inside Belle’s broken heart thus why her counterpart in Storybrooke is really Belle gone mad 1000 times more than Jefferson, who only has to remember the two lives in his own head. Imagine, the insanity that could be caused by all those lives screaming to get out. That’s a serious case of Multiple Personalties Disorder, there.
However, in the latest episode (An Apple…) Jefferson is bargaining with Regina about his daughter, Grace, and says he’ll do as Regina wishes if she will “write a new story for Grace and I” instead of just waking her up to live with two worlds in her head like he has had to. That line of dialogue made me think Regina had something to do with the story book – or – has some other book that is something like the false reality the Curse reads from to veil the minds of the Storybrooke citizens; an anti-Once Upon A Time book of sorts.
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