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@Oncescape wrote:
@A_Desperate_Soul wrote:
@Oncescape wrote:
I do believe really the only way for Regina’s imprisonment of Belle to not really just be a holding pattern for her storyline would be for Regina to have spent that time brainwashing her. But it’d have to be subconscious, sleeper type, since Belle didn’t take one look at Rumpel in the finale, recoil in fear and run away, so she hadn’t be conditioned to fear him on sight.
Just because Belle didn’t react in a way in which you found fit, doesn’t mean that she’s been brainwashed or conditioned. I wasn’t surprised by Belle’s reaction to the Rumpel in the finale. I saw that storyline for what it was. The show has presented them as true love. We have evidence of this via their kiss in “Skin Deep.” I knew that was the case, so I knew she wouldn’t fear when she was finally reunited with him. I honestly believe we’re overanalyzing something that will never be addressed on the show.
This whole debate is just a symptom of the original tale.
What in the world are you talking about? Why would Regina condition Belle to like Rumpel more? That’s ridiculous. And that’s not what I said.
Can you point exactly where I said that?
[adrotate group="5"]@A_Desperate_Soul wrote:
Just because Belle didn’t react in a way in which you found fit, doesn’t mean that she’s been brainwashed or conditioned.
Can you point exactly where I said that?
In order for me to believe that Belle’s happy reaction was a result of conditioning (which I didn’t say), wouldn’t that require belief that Regina would have brainwashed Belle to like Rumpel more?
Edit: In any case, my point was a fearful reaction would have been a type of evidence of overt conditioning. That was what I said. “since Belle didn’t take one look at Rumpel in the finale, recoil in fear and run away, so she hadn’t be conditioned to fear him on sight.”
I meant “been” rather than be but it was a matter of fact statement that Belle reacting in over- the-top-hysterical fear at the sight of him wouldn’thave been a normal reaction.
Personally, I saw the scene where Belle was talking to Grumpy in “Dreamy” as her confessing her love for Rumpel. She didn’t seem afraid of him or even that angry at him in that scene. And her final scene with him in “Skin Deep” was Belle trying to get Rumpel to open eyes and realize what was doing. She was being forceful. And like I said before, she obviously didn’t seem that angry at him in “Dreamy” or “A Land Without Magic.”
And as Price of Magic already said, she’s been away from Rumpel for 28 years. After 28 years of being locked in a tiny little room by a stranger, and kept away from her one true love, something tells me an argument they had 28 years ago isn’t going to anger her that much anymore.
@Beauty & the Beast wrote:
Personally, I saw the scene where Belle was talking to Grumpy in “Dreamy” as her confessing her love for Rumpel. She didn’t seem afraid of him or even that angry at him in that scene. And her final scene with him in “Skin Deep” was Belle trying to get Rumpel to open eyes and realize what was doing. She was being forceful. And like I said before, she obviously didn’t seem that angry at him in “Dreamy” or “A Land Without Magic.”
And as Price of Magic already said, she’s been away from Rumpel for 28 years. After 28 years of being locked in a tiny little room by a stranger, and kept away from her one true love, something tells me an argument they had 28 years ago isn’t going to anger her that much anymore.
I agree. She’s been away from Rumpel for 28 years. 28 WHOLE YEARS. Why wouldn’t she be happy to see him? It’s been nearly 3 decades since she last saw him. She was probably overwhelmed with joy at the sight of him. And an argument that happened nearly 30 years ago wasn’t going to factor into her feelings for him at that moment. I seriously doubt someone who has just been reunited with their true love, and has had 28 years worth of memories restored to them, is going to suddenly reject and recoil in fear at the sight of their true love. That wouldn’t make any sense.
But i don’t think that Belle feels the weight of those years. Everyone was in a haze for those years as far as we know and so it isn’t 28 years of memories in the same way. I think it would have been much more realistic for Belle to become bitter towards Rumpel for how he treated her especially if she has any knowledge of who locked her up and why instead of just being oh happy i love you. I am hoping that they just are waiting on her reaction and she will chew him out again like she did at the end of skin deep.
@hjbau wrote:
But i don’t think that Belle feels the weight of those years. Everyone was in a haze for those years as far as we know and so it isn’t 28 years of memories in the same way. I think it would have been much more realistic for Belle to become bitter towards Rumpel for how he treated her especially if she has any knowledge of who locked her up and why instead of just being oh happy i love you. I am hoping that they just are waiting on her reaction and she will chew him out again like she did at the end of skin deep.
We really have to wait and see how time works in Storybrooke first. Because yes, the time they spent in Storybrooke while under the curse probably had them walking around in a bit of a haze. But once the curse was broken, I think the weight of everything they went through and everything they had lost due to the curse, came rushing back to them. I think once the curse was broken, they began to feel just how much time they had lost. I think the writers or producers already alluded to that in a recent interview. One of the major themes of season 2 will be these characters trying to deal with the conflicting memories they had of both Storybrooke and Fairytale land, and how it shapes who they are now. So yes, I think the 28 years will have a major impact on all of the characters, including Belle.
Still feeling the weight of those years as you are going through them is completely different then the weight of those years afterwards. We do have to wait and see and clearly those years have an impact, but to think they would cause Belle to love Rumpel more after how he treated her does not make sense to me at all.
Well, considering they‘re each other’s true love, it actually does make sense. I honestly don’t see Belle still being angry at Rumpel after 28 years of not seeing him.
For me it wouldn’t be realistic to hold a grudge against someone for 28 years, or even longer. Belle was probably already imprisoned when the curse was being enacted.
Besides it was an argument in which they both participated. Rumple is the one to blame, of course. He should apologise because he’s the one who started the whole thing and definitely overreacted. But as far as hurtful words are concerned Belle didn’t spare him either.
The fact that they argued, no matter how fierce the argument was, didn’t make Belle’s feelings for Rumple evaporate. Love doesn’t work that way.@mickey wrote:
For me it wouldn’t be realistic to hold a grudge against someone for 28 years, or even longer. Belle was probably already imprisoned when the curse was being enacted.
Besides it was an argument in which they both participated. Rumple is the one to blame, of course. He should apologise because he’s the one who started the whole thing and definitely overreacted. But as far as hurtful words are concerned Belle didn’t spare him either.
The fact that they argued, no matter how fierce the argument was, didn’t make Belle’s feelings for Rumple evaporate. Love doesn’t work that way.I agree. I don’t think an argument that happened 28 years ago would cause Belle to react coldly towards Rumpel now. It’s been 28 years since they last saw each other. Of course she’d happy to see him. An argument doesn’t have the power to make true love just all of a sudden disappear.
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