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May 15, 2013 at 5:46 am #194527thelonebamfParticipant
I agree, AngieBelle – I think this is a fantastic opportunity to develop Belle as well as several of the other characters that haven’t been in the spotlight lately. Actually, there were several doors left wide open, and it would be remiss of the writers to ignore them!
First off, the bean plant in Regina’s office is still alive. Tiny is still in Storybrooke. With all of the magic wielding and volatile people out of town, there’s no reason why another crop couldn’t be cultivated from that plant. There is still an opportunity for beans to be produced!
That being said, we have a lot of talented people in Storybrooke. The Blue Fairy is still around, as are all of the dwarves, Dr. Whale, Granny Lucas, etc etc. While rebuilding the town and protecting it are going to be a priority, a power vacuum has been created. Who is in charge now? BF? Archie? Belle? Are they all going to be satisfied while those they care about (Snow, Charming, Emma, Rumple) are all about to go to a dangerous place? Doubtful!
Also- perhaps some telltale dialogue. We were all very sad to hear Belle say “You aren’t coming back to me” but you know what that means? She’s just going to have to go to him.
So maybe we get Tiny to grow some beans, Belle to figure out where the ship went, the dwarves to build a vessel to travel in and Blue Fairy to magic it up. Whale can prepare some science to battle “the home office” crew. Let’s get this party started!
[adrotate group="5"]"Nothing is easier than to denounce the evildoer; nothing is more difficult than to understand him."
May 15, 2013 at 12:54 pm #194563RumplesGirlKeymasterI agree, Belle will go after Rumple once SB is safe and protected. But first I think she’s going to realize somehow that Neal is alive. I have this sort of crackpot theory, here it goes:
I think there is a mirror in Rumple’s shop. It is a set of two. The other one is in NL with the mermaids. Rumple makes a deal with the mermaids to use it. It activates the other mirror.
Rumple has learned that Neal is alive because Aurora and Snow can communicate in the red room.
Rumple tells Belle that Neal is alive in FTL but he can’t go to save him because he has to save Henry. Emma tells Belle that there is a magic hat in her car (we HAVE to see that hat again)
There are now beans in SB. Belle takes a few of those and asks the BF to activate the hat.
She goes through where she finds Neal and MAP.
She tells Neal about what a good man Rumple is and how he is trying to save Henry.
Neal and Belle use a bean to go through to NL where Papa and son are reunited as are Rumbelle.I cry tears of joy.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"May 15, 2013 at 3:05 pm #194586angiebelleParticipantI have to say, I totally love the idea of Belle being the one to discover Bae is still alive. They didn’t have the opportunity to properly meet in season 2, and I would really like to see that since they both have a relationship with Rumple.
May 22, 2013 at 6:45 am #195695thelonebamfParticipantIt could lead to some interesting conversations.
First of all, Rumple’s deathbed call to Belle opened Bae’s eyes as to the fact that his father wasn’t pure evil and was in fact capable of caring about someone else. It also revealed the fact that there was some part of him that wanted to be better than he was.
However, we still don’t have any reason to believe that Baelfire knows exactly what Rumple went through to get back to him. I’m not really sure how he’d react to the news, it’s a lot to take in, and so, so much of what Rumple did was dubious and downright bad. However, he did make a lot of sacrifices along the way as well. Belle knows about a lot of this, as well as how Rumple was willing to leave her in Storybrooke to find Bae. (I think we can safely assume that Rumple shared a lot of the story with her.)
If we got to see this play out, I’d like to see Belle sort things out in Storybrooke, end up in FTL and pick up Baelfire and then head to Neverland. Bae would probably be really confused as to why she’s going through so much trouble for his father, and we could have a warm heart to heart where she tells him that maybe he doesn’t know his father as well as he thinks he does, thereby opening his mind to some reconciliation.
"Nothing is easier than to denounce the evildoer; nothing is more difficult than to understand him."
May 22, 2013 at 12:35 pm #195706RumplesGirlKeymasterExactly. I think the beginnings of healing for Rumple and Bae are going to start with Belle, who has the “super power” of being able to see the good behind monsters. I’m sure Bae is super confused as to why someone so good would be in love with this father, someone he considers to be a coward, power hungry and a monster.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"May 22, 2013 at 2:51 pm #195719angiebelleParticipantAt this point, I’m wondering if Bae had any inkling that he has only seen Belle as Lacey whom I imagine he wouldn’t like at all. He may have a distrust of Belle at first! I agree though- Belle is going to end up being the peacemaker between them.
May 22, 2013 at 2:55 pm #195720RumplesGirlKeymaster@AngieBelle wrote:
At this point, I’m wondering if Bae had any inkling that he has only seen Belle as Lacey whom I imagine he wouldn’t like at all. He may have a distrust of Belle at first! I agree though- Belle is going to end up being the peacemaker between them.
It seemed like “Lacey” was common knowledge, Grumpy and Blue knew about it at least. So Neal may have known that the woman he met on street in SSTR wasn’t the same Belle Rumple made that phone call to, even if that also wasn’t really Belle. But I can see him being distrustful of what Belle says about Rumple at the beginning, it’s going to be very hard for him to believe what Belle tells him.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"January 7, 2014 at 7:59 pm #235780obisgirlParticipantI wrote this thing, The Hero’s Journey, Belle in The Outsider
I loved seeing her work with Ariel too in Dark Hollow, and for her, to have a storyline without Rumple in the picture. I mean, he was still there in spirit but she was the one who took charge. That was awesome.
January 11, 2014 at 4:33 pm #236438betsypaige24ParticipantThe writers simply don’t care about Belle. They show it with the Charmings, they show it in how Belle doesn’t get to confront Hook or Regina and even with Gold. The wraith thing nothwithstanding, he knew she was drugged (see Lacey hospital scene), did nothing……and now because everything has happened lickety split, he’s probably forgotten that Belle was ever Lacey in the first place. Apparently he and Regina have made up (this was what was said, not in these exact words, in one spoiler that said that Regina would need a new enemy), so therefore even Gold doesn’t care about what she’s done. No doubt he’ll even have forgotten what Hook did to her.
Everything that’s been done to Belle has been minimized by Adam and EddyI don’t even need Gold to be actively going up against Regina, but I think it’s incredibly insulting to Belle that he’s “made up” with Regina when it wasn’t HE who was the injured party. Yeah, he was crushed by Belle’s “death”, but it was Belle who truly suffered. The fact that he’s not still angry with Regina about anything…….and probably not Hook………is annoying.
January 11, 2014 at 4:40 pm #236441RumplesGirlKeymasterThe writers simply don’t care about Belle.
I really don’t think that. I think A and E’s problem is that they took too many toys outside the box. Too many ideas all at once. And while I LOVE Belle–I do!!!–her story isn’t the center of the show. Yes, she deserves her own storyline and own episodes but not to the extent that the Charming’s get them. They never had her confront Hook or Regina about what she did because that individual storyline got swept away with the bigger picture. A lot of smaller things have fallen by the wayside–for every character.
At this point I don’t know if we’ll ever see Snow’s whistle again, or the magic dust the bad fairy gave to her. Or if we’ll ever see Charming’s father, or Regina with Young Snow, or watch Snowing try to rule their kingdom (surely they did something besides going after Regina).
And it’s not that Gold doesn’t care about what has happened to Belle but I think we need to accept that a lot of stuff happens off screen because A and E are FAR more concerned with the external events–big bads–than they are with the internal ones. I’m not saying that’s good–no matter what you ship or who your favorite character is. But they care more about the larger mythology and overarching stories than the smaller more human ones. If we were to ask A and E, they would probably say that Rumple and Belle have had loads of personal conversations about her time with Regina or locked up, but we don’t get to see them because that’s not how A and E tell stories post S1. It’s “BIG EVENT” story telling. And whether it’s right or not is a topic for another time. They love all their characters but they have to serve their story–the big one–first.
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