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Seriously, sorry, but I really see her as always voicing Rumples positive traits that are overshadowed by his self doubt. She nurtures his goodness that is overshadowed by his dark side. She reminds him of his bravery when he tells us over and over that he’s a coward.
I know Belle will search for and find Rumple. In whatever state he’s in, if it’s negative, weak, doubting, dark, I hope she walks away. I hope she yells at him, scolds him and walks away. She’s tended to his doubts long enough. She’s been there for him. If he wants to be alone, then fine, I hope she walks away. “If you want me to believe in you, try believing in yourself.
If she finds him strong, loving and kind, then that’s different. But if he wants to venture off on another adventure alone, I hope she says “enough! I’m gone. I’m off on my own adventure. I may or may not want you when I’m done”.
It’s been a very long hiatus. And I’d just love to hear Belle scream her guts out at him. Maybe because I’m mad at Rumple for Belle. For leaving her crumpled in the middle of the street. Mad that she’s going back to Enchanted Forest, her fate sealed in a curse he helped create.
My favorite scene between the two of them was by the tree in the enchanted forest, after Rumple shot the arrow, but missed Robin Hood. Belle kissed him on the cheek, and he was flabbergasted. Belle walked away, peered over her shoulder and asked, “are you coming?” And Rumple picked up his bow and followed her. What I want see is Belle, walking away, peering over her shoulder and saying ” MY adventure is this way. Are you coming?” For her to lead the way, and Rumple to follow.
[adrotate group="5"]I agree, Angie. I thought we’d see that when she was working on opening the library, but that all went to pieces post Child of the Moon when she basically disappeared until the Outsider……and, well, the rest is history. I don’t even NEED Belle to have a huge arc, but show her interacting with people……please! I have always wanted Belle to open the library as sort of a community center, sort of a focal point for social activitiese. It would give her a chance to interact with people and to do something for the town – that’s just like Belle. Plus this show needs to be grounded a little bit more in reality……seeing Henry and others occasionally popping into the library would be wonderful……. This is a huge issue with the show actually and not just with Belle. We never see characters interact anymore unless it has to do with the BIG STORY. In season 1, we got lovely smaller moments all the time.
IF and when Rumbelle is ever reunited at the end of S3, there are two things I want to see:
1) Focus on Rumbelle together, focus on the ramifications of his curse breaking. He’s mortal now – that’s a huge deal in terms of his relationship. He’s much older physically than Belle………All this stuff. Is he physically ok? I could see him worrying about marrying her and potentially dying much earlier than she, leaving her by herself..possibly with children.
2) Belle at least shown outside of the relationship even if it’s not some huge arc.
I just really feel sorry for Emilie. I know she’s happy so maybe I shouldn’t, but god, she’s such a fantastic actress …….I wish she had more to do.
I don’t understand walking away from someone you love because they are insecure and have doubts. I suppose if someone loved me like Belle loves Gold, I would deserve to be walked away from? (This applies to anyone else). Yelling at someone to either feel better about themselves or they’ll leave? Ouch………. That’s just not how things work.
Belle should be angry at Gold for sacrificing his life for her and Bae? For saving the town? If he had used magic instead to fight Pan, the battle would have been ongoing, neverending…..and who’s to say Belle and Bae wouldn’t have been killed anyway?
I’m not sure what adventure you’re referring to that he went off on without her. To find Bae? At the end of the Outsider, he had learned that he truly wanted Belle to be his partner with him in every way, he wanted her to go with him – badly – but she couldn’t.
I have no interest in seeing Belle become a screaming haridan for no reason other than that she can treat Gold like a whipped puppy. What’s so appealing about seeing Belle treat him like that? IMO, they are partners and always will be……..and that’s how I want it to always be.
I can see we’re not on the same page or in the same book, so I will respectfully agree to disagree and leave it there.
1) Focus on Rumbelle together, focus on the ramifications of his curse breaking. He’s mortal now – that’s a huge deal in terms of his relationship. He’s much older physically than Belle………All this stuff. Is he physically ok? I could see him worrying about marrying her and potentially dying much earlier than she, leaving her by herself..possibly with children.
And I want that too. And this is why I’d be REALLY ok if Rumple and Belle have nothing to do with the big bad coming in 3B. Like they just have their own little side adventure and come back after the big bad has been defeated, I am A-OK with that.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"betsypaige24 wrote: 1) Focus on Rumbelle together, focus on the ramifications of his curse breaking. He’s mortal now – that’s a huge deal in terms of his relationship. He’s much older physically than Belle………All this stuff. Is he physically ok? I could see him worrying about marrying her and potentially dying much earlier than she, leaving her by herself..possibly with children.
And I want that too. And this is why I’d be REALLY ok if Rumple and Belle have nothing to do with the big bad coming in 3B. Like they just have their own little side adventure and come back after the big bad has been defeated, I am A-OK with that.
I would LOVE that…….LOVE that!
Seriously, sorry, but I really see her as always voicing Rumples positive traits that are overshadowed by his self doubt. She nurtures his goodness that is overshadowed by his dark side. She reminds him of his bravery when he tells us over and over that he’s a coward.
I know Belle will search for and find Rumple. In whatever state he’s in, if it’s negative, weak, doubting, dark, I hope she walks away. I hope she yells at him, scolds him and walks away. She’s tended to his doubts long enough. She’s been there for him. If he wants to be alone, then fine, I hope she walks away. “If you want me to believe in you, try believing in yourself.
I completely disagree. Rumple has self-esteem issues, he always worries that the people he loves will leave him, and until Belle he had no reason to think that wouldn’t happen because every person he loved in the past left him. He’s started to overcome that, started to believe that Belle won’t leave him and that they’ll have a future together. Rumple sacrificed to save Bae and Belle and you’re seriously wanting Belle to leave Rumple when she finds him? Seriously? Belle and Rumple are supposed to be true love, if she leaves him, just because he’s not his normal self when she finds him then that is an enormous disservice to Belle’s character.
If she finds him strong, loving and kind, then that’s different. But if he wants to venture off on another adventure alone, I hope she says “enough! I’m gone. I’m off on my own adventure. I may or may not want you when I’m done”.
It’s been a very long hiatus. And I’d just love to hear Belle scream her guts out at him. Maybe because I’m mad at Rumple for Belle. For leaving her crumpled in the middle of the street. Mad that she’s going back to Enchanted Forest, her fate sealed in a curse he helped create.
I completely disagree. It wasn’t Rumple’s fault that, in order to save Belle and Bae from Pan, he had to sacrifice himself. Pan made it clear that he was going to kill Bae and Belle because of their meaning to Rumple. Rumple did the brave thing by sacrificing himself. Given the choice I’m sure he would’ve preferred to live happily with Belle, unfortunately he had no choice in the matter. Rumple did what he had to do in order to save Belle.
Also Rumple left Belle behind in Storybrooke because he wanted to keep her safe from Pan. At that point in time, he believed he was going to die in Neverland and he didn’t want Belle to have to witness that. He had no idea that Pan would find his way to Storybrooke where Belle was.
Belle would never leave Rumple just because he’s not himself. They’re true love.
All magic comes with a price!
Keeper of FelixI also think that it’s too late in the narrative for Belle to get angry with Rumple about his poor choices in the past. That ship has sailed. At this point in the story, it would be backpedaling. I don’t think Belle would be angry at Rumple for his sacrifice. He did what he had to do.
Cinders wrote: Seriously, sorry, but I really see her as always voicing Rumples positive traits that are overshadowed by his self doubt. She nurtures his goodness that is overshadowed by his dark side. She reminds him of his bravery when he tells us over and over that he’s a coward. I know Belle will search for and find Rumple. In whatever state he’s in, if it’s negative, weak, doubting, dark, I hope she walks away. I hope she yells at him, scolds him and walks away. She’s tended to his doubts long enough. She’s been there for him. If he wants to be alone, then fine, I hope she walks away. “If you want me to believe in you, try believing in yourself.
I completely disagree. Rumple has self-esteem issues, he always worries that the people he loves will leave him, and until Belle he had no reason to think that wouldn’t happen because every person he loved in the past left him. He’s started to overcome that, started to believe that Belle won’t leave him and that they’ll have a future together. Rumple sacrificed to save Bae and Belle and you’re seriously wanting Belle to leave Rumple when she finds him? Seriously? Belle and Rumple are supposed to be true love, if she leaves him, just because he’s not his normal self when she finds him then that is an enormous disservice to Belle’s character.
If she finds him strong, loving and kind, then that’s different. But if he wants to venture off on another adventure alone, I hope she says “enough! I’m gone. I’m off on my own adventure. I may or may not want you when I’m done”. It’s been a very long hiatus. And I’d just love to hear Belle scream her guts out at him. Maybe because I’m mad at Rumple for Belle. For leaving her crumpled in the middle of the street. Mad that she’s going back to Enchanted Forest, her fate sealed in a curse he helped create.
I completely disagree. It wasn’t Rumple’s fault that, in order to save Belle and Bae from Pan, he had to sacrifice himself. Pan made it clear that he was going to kill Bae and Belle because of their meaning to Rumple. Rumple did the brave thing by sacrificing himself. Given the choice I’m sure he would’ve preferred to live happily with Belle, unfortunately he had no choice in the matter. Rumple did what he had to do in order to save Belle. Also Rumple left Belle behind in Storybrooke because he wanted to keep her safe from Pan. At that point in time, he believed he was going to die in Neverland and he didn’t want Belle to have to witness that. He had no idea that Pan would find his way to Storybrooke where Belle was. Belle would never leave Rumple just because he’s not himself. They’re true love.
Ah, I completely agree, POM!
It’s not like he said “hey Belle, I’m going off to sow my wild oats; stay here and wait for me, however long that takes”. He’d do anything to protect Belle, he loves her so much that it’s painful. You can’t order people to believe in themselves, you can only encourage them (and he’s had a lifetime of hurt that would explain his self-doubt, not to mention the fact that he hates himself for his past). In NL, Pan tried to use Belle against him andyet ironically it was that that led to his epiphany. Gold chose to fight for his future, for his survival……fought against the prophecy, and that was brave. He believed that Belle would succeed in finding the box, he’s always believed in her……..and so now she’s not supposed to believe in him?
Her getting mad about him making a sacrifice makes NO sense and would ruin Belle completely for me. I can’t even conceive of such a thing.
As to getting mad about his poor choices, I’d like to add that he didn’t ask her to fall in love with him. She knew about his past, knew about his reputation and still saw through that. Here’s a lovely, wonderful video of Emilie explaining about Belle’s love for Gold:
Anyway, here are wonderful Rumbelle GIFs……
It’s been a very long hiatus. And I’d just love to hear Belle scream her guts out at him. Maybe because I’m mad at Rumple for Belle. For leaving her crumpled in the middle of the street. Mad that she’s going back to Enchanted Forest, her fate sealed in a curse he helped create.
I agree. I am also mad that he left her crumpled in the middle of the street. but at that point he really had no choice. He tried everything he could to stay alive, every loophole he could think of, but Pan always won. what was he supposed to do, let Pan kill her and curse the rest of the town into oblivion? it was terrible that she had to watch him die, but it wasn’t his fault. if he had magic he’d have moved all of them out of the way to some far off location in Story Brooke (like what Cora did to Emma and Neal) and then killed Pan and himself quietly. but Pan already made them a captive audience. and Gold couldn’t tell Pan “hey let’s step away from here, hey let’s go a few blocks down before we die together” he just had to do what he had to do.
when he thought that he’d have to sacrifice himself in Neverland he didn’t bring Belle with him because of that, because he didn’t want her to see him die.
maybe he should have killed pan and himself in his shop, but he was still in the “I have a future with Belle” mode and he couldn’t give that up so fast. so he had to first struggle with the cuff and all that. I think that if he wouldn’t have had his hopes up about staying alive, he would have killed Pan the minute he saw that the cuff is on his hand. he’d have summoned the shadow before Pan left the shop. but it all happened way too fast. just a few seconds ago he thought that he’d won. he thought the cuff worked and Pan was powerless. he thought he had a chance at a future with Belle and his son.
this is why he was still trying so desperately to take that cuff off. it was so sudden, he couldn’t believe it!. he was so suddenly powerless that it didn’t register right away that he is done for.
poor guy.
poor Bellealso. That scene where Belle looks over her shoulder and asks “are you coming?” is very symbolic to their relationship. she was the brave one who sacrificed herself for her family and kingdom, and he followed her with his own bravery. that’s how she made him stronger, by going, then looking over her shoulder and smile her beautiful, inviting smile thus making it easier for him to follow her heroic actions.
Ok so I think we’ve dealt with Rumple enough for a bit. And I noticed that our conversations about Rumple always lead back to Belle somehow. So how about tackling the librarian next?
Here’s a question. Is Belle a believable character? We know that Belle’s key trait (besides brains) is that she sees the man behind the monster. But according to episode 315, she loved him. Even the parts of him that belong to the darkness. But when it comes to Rumple’s actions is Belle really believable. She didn’t even blink when she learned that Rumple killed Milah, his first wife. It might be that she and he dealt with it off screen, of course, but it’s such a big thing to learn, why not hash it out in front of the audience? Is Belle naive? Is she deluded? Or she is really just that good? And what’s her breaking point?
A second question: what role does Belle play in the series? For me I think she has two roles, and I’m not sure this is a good thing:
1) Exposition girl: her role as “researcher” puts her off screen quite a bit. She’s set to find out information and then deliver it to the rest of the gang. But she has yet to really be in the big battle scenes. She was in the hospital during the Cora showdown. She was left behind for all of Neverland. She wasn’t at the barn when Regina defeated Zelena. She has yet to form any real attachment to the CORE outside of Rumple. She seems to have no friends (except Ariel who is now living on an island); She forgave her father but we never got to see it and the only conclusion I can draw from that is that the writers don’t think it’s that important to show her relationships develop.
2) Love Interest: Belle’s story is really Rumple’s. Her entire being and reason for being on the show is Rumple. Like I said above, she does do the “research” bit, but it’s a way to keep her off screen but still “busy.” How has she been developed outside of Rumple and Rumbelle?
Does Belle play any sort of role in the future of this show besides being Mrs. Gold, Librarian?
Discuss 🙂
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