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Assuming the dark cloud took Emma away to Camelot, I don’t think itd be odd that it can return her to SB if summoned.
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Keeper Of Tamara's Taser , Jafar's Staff, Kitsis’s Glasses , Ariel’s Tail, Dopey's Hat , Peter Pan’s Shadow, Outfit, & Pied Cloak,Red Queen's Castle, White Rabbit's Power To World Hop, Zelena's BroomStick, & ALL MAGICAssuming the dark cloud took Emma away to Camelot, I don’t think itd be odd that it can return her to SB if summoned.
The darkness has never done anything before it was extracted. They’ll probably come up with some handwavey explanation as to why it took Emma to another realm.
But summoning the Dark one is a command like any other. Just forcing them to teleport. Remember how Zelena couldn’t summon Rumple because Neal was in control of the body? Emma can’t cross realms, so the summoning won’t work (assuming the commands would even reach). Not to mention that if it really was that easy to get Emma back, they’d do it right away in the premiere, which would defeat the whole purpose of her disappearance.
I actually really, REALLY like where this seems to be going. A dark Emma? Yes please.
2 questions; who gets to keep the dagger? Will being The Dark One change Emma as drastically as it changed Rumple?
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"there’s lesbians in it"I actually really, REALLY like where this seems to be going. A dark Emma? Yes please. 2 questions; who gets to keep the dagger? Will being The Dark One change Emma as drastically as it changed Rumple?
I think Henry should have the dagger, but it will probably be Hook.
As to the second, I feel as though the darkness should balance out her light magic, but I don’t the writers are going to go that route since that makes for a lackluster season arc
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"I feel as though the darkness should balance out her light magic, but I don’t the writers are going to go that route since that makes for a lackluster season arc
Shouldn’t the darkness not even be able t effect Emma? I mean she is TL incarnate. A simple TLK can destroy the darkness >> Emma can’t even get her heart ripped out but she get be taken over by ultimate darkness? Eh. Just let me see a green scaly Emma and I will be fine for S5. Extra points if she “does the Rumpel” hand thing xD
"I could have the giant duck as my steed!" --Daniel Radcliffe
Keeper Of Tamara's Taser , Jafar's Staff, Kitsis’s Glasses , Ariel’s Tail, Dopey's Hat , Peter Pan’s Shadow, Outfit, & Pied Cloak,Red Queen's Castle, White Rabbit's Power To World Hop, Zelena's BroomStick, & ALL MAGICCurious on what type of Dark One Emma would be, for remember even when Rumple started out as the Dark One he still tried to do things with good intentions just with a Dark Twist, and since the Darkness is attached to a human host said human host must have some influence over the Dark One, Rumple certainly did, and Emma certainly will, and since Emma has had good experience in her life especially with her family by her side, I’m curious what type of internal struggle will be inside of her compared to Rumple’s internal struggle.
I am in agreement with you…. I believe in free will and each person determines his own actions… I think Emma will be able to over come the DARK ONE and end his reign. I look forward to the internal struggle.
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I am wondering WHO has the sword.
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.Ok, so this has been on my chest for a while, and I personally don’t agree with this decision. I don’t think this should really be a thing for Emma, and if it is, it should be something that only last for a few seconds or minutes because of the simple fact of who she is and who they have said she is supposed to be since the pilot, and also the many rules that have been set up in this universe.
She supposed to be the savior of their world, purveyor of light and a product of true love, that’s her identity, that’s who she is and it’s quite clear that she stands strong and firm in who she is and what’s she supposed to be doing. She’s quite clear and accepting of her destiny, to bring back the happy endings.
Even though she allowed the darkness to overtake her, I don’t believe it should really stick because it was a sacrifice. It was an act of true love and they have shown that true love can come in many forms, not just in a romantic aspect, but in siblings (Elsa and Anna/Ingrid, Helga and Girda), parents and children (Emma and Henry/Regina and Henry) so why can’t it be in friends. It’s clear that Regina and Emma do value each other and respect each other to the point that they do acknowledge that they are friends and Emma even admitted that she wanted to be her friend back in 4×05 Breaking Glass, and it love is the most powerful magic in all the realms, powerful enough to break any curse, then this curse shall break immediately because Emma’s sacrifice is an act of true love AND she IS true love incarnate.
Also, the Dark One power has been established that it’s no more than an elaborate curse. 1×12 Skin Deep when Belle and Rumple first kissed, it was a kiss of true love and the power over him began to weaken. It didn’t break because it’s quite strong, but also there was a desire for him to have and keep the power.
With all of these curses and go over to the “dark side”, there’s always a desire for these characters to come under these curses. With the Sleeping Curse, Snow, Aurora, Henry and David all had to be WILLING to go under, not that they wanted to go under, but there had to be a willingness to go under, and the same for Regina before Zelena stopped her in 3×13 Witch Hunt. And I know that Emma was willing to go under this curse, but it was to save her friend whom she truly loved, not to be the Dark One.
With Rumple, he was willing to go under and accepting of the power the Dark One curse came with. In 1×08, he was more willing to have power, to no longer be deemed the village coward, hobble foot, but to be feared, to have power and be the man he wanted to be more than he wanted to save Baelfire from the Ogre Wars, which of course he did, but the power was what he wanted more, which we saw later in 1×19, The Return when Bealfire went through the portal to our land and he stayed behind so he could keep his powers and not go back to the man he was, that everyone else said he was, a coward. None of that is in Emma.
Emma is not a coward and she has no need to become “more” than what she is now. She never wanted to go dark, she was never accepting of it. She did stumble, but she got back up because she realized who she is and who her parents are despite what they did. Yes, they took an innocent child from their mother, who is Maleficent, cursed her and sent her through a portal to our world, but that circumstance doesn’t define who they are, it just makes them human and shows that they make mistakes just like everyone else. That doesn’t change that they ARE heroes, gosh darnit. Also, let me stress that she is and has never wanted to go dark and honestly I don’t think she could if she even tried because of who she is. Could she willingly give up her light and choose darkness, yes. We all have choices and she has choices as well, and if she wanted to go the dark route and willingly give up her mantle, then yes, she could be the Dark One, but who she truly is, WILL come back for her because who she is, her identity, can never be changed, can never be taken away, even if she tried and she has tasted light and if she even tried darkness, would she find it gratifying? I think not. Also remember back in 3×17, The Jolly Roger, when Regina’s teaching Emma how to use her powers, she exclaimed that there has to be another way WITHOUT going dark.
Emma has never been accepted of darkness and everything it brings and for her to become the Dark One for an extended period of time would break so much canon and continuity of the show and instead of adding on these new rules that are kind of off and don’t really make sense, then just stick to the fundamentals that have been set up since the Pilot and thereafter. If this thing lasts for more than one episode, it would be because they have thrown out the fundamental rules that have been established since the first episode just so they can have a gimmick, which isn’t needed, just tell the story, tell a compelling story instead of bringing in characters and story arcs that ultimately have nothing to do with the story you’re trying to tell. Well, I’m off my soapbox. I hope everyone’s having a great summer and can’t wait for what’s ahead and what they do with this. Have a a good one, Oncers.
I am wondering WHO has the sword.
Excalibur? Besides Lancelot, did anyone else possess Excalibur? Hmm…. we know its in Camelot. Im going to go look back at that episode to see if Rumpel said anything about the sword that might be of interest. I think he said something about only the pure of heart can pull the sword from the stone or soemhing right? Or was that charming? Idk, maybe I will find enough clues to create a theory. It might come in handy.
"I could have the giant duck as my steed!" --Daniel Radcliffe
Keeper Of Tamara's Taser , Jafar's Staff, Kitsis’s Glasses , Ariel’s Tail, Dopey's Hat , Peter Pan’s Shadow, Outfit, & Pied Cloak,Red Queen's Castle, White Rabbit's Power To World Hop, Zelena's BroomStick, & ALL MAGICI’m hoping that if they’re going to do Black Swan…she needs to be hurtful towards everyone!
Even though she knows how sorry they may feel….maybe Black Swan will serve as a venting of repressed emotions Emma hid away for so long…kinda like how the Shattered Sight curse would have worked on Emma where she sees nothing but the worst in people, and takes it to the extreme.
Everyone wants to see Emma really confront and give hell to her parents for shoving her into a box and shipping her to Maine, Regina for killing Graham, Zelena being responsible for Neal’s death, Rumpelstilskin for all the manipulations he’s done, Hook for trying to woo her while in competition with Neal…if Emma is going to be the Black Swan, she needs to be uncaring, wrathful, hurtful, and pissed 24/7!
And I think to break this Black Swan curse should be the only person alive whose never wronged her….Henry. In a way the prophecy that Henry would be the Dark One’s undoing will still come to pass as his true love can break the curse on his mom.
"If you go as far as you can see...you will then see enough to go even further." - Finn Balor
Ok, so this has been on my chest for a while, and I personally don’t agree with this decision. I don’t think this should really be a thing for Emma, and if it is, it should be something that only last for a few seconds or minutes because of the simple fact of who she is and who they have said she is supposed to be since the pilot, and also the many rules that have been set up in this universe.
I agree with a lot of what you wrote, but from a narrative and TV perspective having the Savior go dark and then revert back–or just not go dark at all–is anti-climatic and doesn’t make for “loud tweetable” TV, which is what ONCE is always after.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
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