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The sword fight was pretty fun & yeah it did look like Hook was fighting his cartoon self
This is an interesting remark. Like others I had indeed noticed when those stills were released that BB looked a lot like the traditional Hook we know. So maybe this duel was supposed to depict the inner “duel” Hook’s having with himself, with BB representing the old, jaded, revenge seeking, bad guy Hook (the pirate aspect of him). Like he’s LITERALLY fighting with himself. Be the good guy who helps a woman find her love again, or be the pirate who only looks out for himself.
Or I’m overthinking things again. 😉
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i said this when i first heard about blackbeard on once, and i shall say it again. blackbeard is a real historical pirate he does not belong in our enchanted forest. it is different than having wonderland or neverland or even frankenstein because all of those are equally fictional but blackbeard is no mere legend he was a real scourge of the seven seas.
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The sword fight was pretty fun & yeah it did look like Hook was fighting his cartoon self
This is an interesting remark. Like others I had indeed noticed when those stills were released that BB looked a lot like the traditional Hook we know. So maybe this duel was supposed to depict the inner “duel” Hook’s having with himself, with BB representing the old, jaded, revenge seeking, bad guy Hook (the pirate aspect of him). Like he’s LITERALLY fighting with himself. Be the good guy who helps a woman find her love again, or be the pirate who only looks out for himself. Or I’m overthinking things again.
I think you’re right. I had exactly the same thought. It also reinforced Hook’s comment in an earlier episode, “I tried the hero thing – it didn’t work out.”
I also agree with once_dude that it seems an odd choice to introduce an actual historical person like Blackbeard into the story. They’ve never done that before, have they? If this was really Blackbeard (Edward Teach) , then how do we reconcile his death at the hand of Hook with the record of his actual death in 1718? I guess they could say this was some other pirate who just happened to have the same nickname, but why introduce such a needless confusion when they could have used any fictional pirate name, like Long John Silver?
Maybe they are setting up a deeper possibility here. Maybe the Once universe is filled with literary characters from our world including not only fictional characters, but real people whose lives have been written about so much that they have become mythologized. Maybe it’s not the “real” person who inhabits the Once universe but the mytholigized version of them which has somehow acquired a life of its own (So we might see the George Washington who cut down the cherry tree instead of the one who actually lived in our world.) This could be a natural extension of Henry’s observation in “In the Name of the Brother” that Frankenstein wasn’t in his storybook even though Dr. Whale is in Storybrooke. As Henry said in that episode, “…then who knows who else is in this town?” So maybe we can also see real people who have been written about. Does this mean Thomas Jefferson, Davy Crockett, or Harry Truman might show up in Storybrooke?
i said this when i first heard about blackbeard on once, and i shall say it again. blackbeard is a real historical pirate he does not belong in our enchanted forest. it is different than having wonderland or neverland or even frankenstein because all of those are equally fictional but blackbeard is no mere legend he was a real scourge of the seven seas.
Long time reader, first time poster… I’m currently listening to the audiobook of Peter Pan and it mentions Hook being Blackbeard’s bo’sun. So perhaps they just used BB because he was already mentioned in the original story.
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Like others I had indeed noticed when those stills were released that BB looked a lot like the traditional Hook we know. So maybe this duel was supposed to depict the inner “duel” Hook’s having with himself, with BB representing the old, jaded, revenge seeking, bad guy Hook (the pirate aspect of him). Like he’s LITERALLY fighting with himself. Be the good guy who helps a woman find her love again, or be the pirate who only looks out for himself.
Sounds like a spot on assessment IMO.
Long time reader, first time poster… I’m currently listening to the audiobook of Peter Pan and it mentions Hook being Blackbeard’s bo’sun. So perhaps they just used BB because he was already mentioned in the original story.
Yep, Blackbeard did get namechecked in Barrie’s book, so I’d say they were doing a nod to that by making this pirate Blackbeard.
I sorta feel like they wasted Blackbeard’s character even more than they wasted Maleficent. Blackbeard would have been a good villain in the future when they eventually start to run out of them. I honestly think that they need to stop killing every villain they ever get. Let some of them live and have the opportunity for them to reappear at a later date.
I honestly think that they need to stop killing every villain they ever get. Let some of them live and have the opportunity for them to reappear at a later date.
Jafar. 😉 Though I suppose he’ll probably end up dead after he inevitably ends up on the main show. 😛 I used to want them to keep Zelena around into next season, but now I just want to see her melted ASAP.
Jafar.
Though I suppose he’ll probably end up dead after he inevitably ends up on the main show. I used to want them to keep Zelena around into next season, but now I just want to see her melted ASAP.
Actually I hope they’ll keep Zelena around. I think she’s my favorite villain yet. She seems to be having so much fun doing what she does! Add to that her unpredictability and crazyness and you never know what you’re going to get. Rebecca Mader seems to be having a blast playing her, which makes her very enjoyable to watch for me.
As for Blackbeard, I dont think he was ever meant as more than a one-off character and vague reference to the book. And from a character perspective I think Hook 100% made the right call there. Hook could not let someone get away with stealing his ship (and his reputation). There was no guarantee that Blackbeard would’ve actually led him to prince Eric. More likely he’d have left him on a remote island somewhere without ship or crew (and his crew would never follow him again after that).
Ariel’s reaction seemed a bit over the top to me. I can understand she was angry, but I’m sure Hook would’ve continued helping her search for Eric, even without Blackbeard if she’d stuck around.By the way, did anyone else expect her to become shark-food when she jumped into the water like that?
The sword fight was pretty fun & yeah it did look like Hook was fighting his cartoon self
This is an interesting remark. Like others I had indeed noticed when those stills were released that BB looked a lot like the traditional Hook we know. So maybe this duel was supposed to depict the inner “duel” Hook’s having with himself, with BB representing the old, jaded, revenge seeking, bad guy Hook (the pirate aspect of him). Like he’s LITERALLY fighting with himself. Be the good guy who helps a woman find her love again, or be the pirate who only looks out for himself.
Or I’m overthinking things again.
not overthinking it that was my thought too – I mentioned something in one of the speculation threads…one theory not totally blown away by the ep then…??
The sword fight was pretty fun & yeah it did look like Hook was fighting his cartoon self
This is an interesting remark. Like others I had indeed noticed when those stills were released that BB looked a lot like the traditional Hook we know. So maybe this duel was supposed to depict the inner “duel” Hook’s having with himself, with BB representing the old, jaded, revenge seeking, bad guy Hook (the pirate aspect of him). Like he’s LITERALLY fighting with himself. Be the good guy who helps a woman find her love again, or be the pirate who only looks out for himself. Or I’m overthinking things again.
not overthinking it that was my thought too – I mentioned something in one of the speculation threads…one theory not totally blown away by the ep then…??
I’m pretty sure that’s exactly why they dressed BB the way the did.
By the way, did anyone else expect her to become shark-food when she jumped into the water like that?
YES. The sharks would be right there still, wouldn’t they??
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