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March 21, 2013 at 4:56 am #136412Reginastwin3Participant
Question…Blue Fairy was always there for the other FT characters…why not Regina? Why didn’t she rescue Regina when she was good? She helped out Rumples son, and she helped out Cricket…why not her? ❓
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March 21, 2013 at 12:31 pm #181291RumplesGirlKeymasterBecause the Blue Fairy is a vindictive evil woman who is secretly behind all the bad things that have happened in FTL.
Ok, this theory is looking less likely with each passing episode BUT what you ask is a good question. Just not one we’re going to get an answer for this season.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"March 21, 2013 at 12:41 pm #181292kfchimeraParticipantWe don’t have an explanation. My theory is that maybe Regina never asked for help, or her misery over losing Daniel was not something the BF could have helped.
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March 21, 2013 at 1:22 pm #181300SlurpeezParticipantI believe Johanna told young Snow that the person seeking the help of the BF must be pure of heart. Geppetto, Jiminy, and Baelfire all sought help for pure reasons, and young Snow White would have if Cora hadn’t interfered. So, my best guess is that prior to Daniel’s death, Regina never even thought to ask for the BF’s help, because Regina believed she and Daniel would elope. Yet, after Cora killed Daniel, something in Regina snapped, and what purity of heart she once had was gone. Plus, there was nothing the BF could have done to help Regina at that point, because magic couldn’t bring back Daniel, which is the only thing that would’ve consoled Regina.
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March 22, 2013 at 3:49 am #181579Reginastwin3ParticipantWell…why not when she was a little girl, or a teenager? I know it’s just a show… 😎
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March 22, 2013 at 9:06 am #181605MyrilParticipant@chrisgirl85 wrote:
Well…why not when she was a little girl, or a teenager? I know it’s just a show… 😎
What could or should the Blue Fairy have done for Regina earlier? Give her a different family? Make her mother Cora care and love? Not saying there would have been nothing, just wondering what she could have done.
How much did the Blue Fairy know about the situation of Regina?
Would it have been any right for the Blue Fairy to get involved and meddle with Regina without Regina asking her for it?
Could she have “rescued” Regina?Not even in fairy tales (and less in other kind of tales) faires are omniscient and/or omnipotent, they don’t solve all problems someone has at once with a flick of their wand. The opposite: Often fairy tales tell that taking the easy road leads to no good in the end. And most of the times fulfillment of wishes comes with some catch. Or to cite Rumple. Magic comes with a price.
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March 22, 2013 at 11:52 am #181614PheeParticipant@myril wrote:
Would it have been any right for the Blue Fairy to get involved and meddle with Regina without Regina asking her for it?
I think this is a key point when it comes to Blue, she doesn’t just go butting in and helping every single person in FTL, she only comes to help if she is asked. Regina never asked.
March 22, 2013 at 5:18 pm #181660PriceofMagicParticipantBlue Fairy interfered with Bae and Rumple. Bae may have asked for help but Blue was too quick with the solution of sending Bae and Rumple to another world. Surely children on the battlefield who spoke of her would have asked for her help. It was up to Rumple to stop the war, yet the child soldiers spoke her name. Why didn’t she help them?
Also Morraine seemed a bit suspicious in the scene when she told Bae about the Blue Fairy. She appeared when Bae was alone, gave him the information about Blue Fairy then disappeared when Rumple came back despite saying she wasn’t afraid of him. Did Bae even wish on the blue star anyway? He just seemed to call out for Blue Fairy and she appeared. Was she waiting for him to ask for her help and Morraine just gave him the nudge? Also Rumple was yelling for Blue Fairy to appear and she did, he wasn’t wishing on any star.
All magic comes with a price!
Keeper of FelixMarch 22, 2013 at 7:10 pm #181684MyrilParticipant@PriceofMagic wrote:
Blue Fairy interfered with Bae and Rumple. Bae may have asked for help but Blue was too quick with the solution of sending Bae and Rumple to another world. Surely children on the battlefield who spoke of her would have asked for her help. It was up to Rumple to stop the war, yet the child soldiers spoke her name. Why didn’t she help them?
Also Morraine seemed a bit suspicious in the scene when she told Bae about the Blue Fairy. She appeared when Bae was alone, gave him the information about Blue Fairy then disappeared when Rumple came back despite saying she wasn’t afraid of him. Did Bae even wish on the blue star anyway? He just seemed to call out for Blue Fairy and she appeared. Was she waiting for him to ask for her help and Morraine just gave him the nudge? Also Rumple was yelling for Blue Fairy to appear and she did, he wasn’t wishing on any star.
Some people see conspiracy, I don’t.
Don’t think Blue was too fast with her solution, there was nothing else to suggest. She couldn’t undo the curse of the Dark One in their world full of magic.
The Ogre war. Knowing a name, telling a legend doesn’t mean automatically they asked for her help – and who knows, she might have helped as best as she could those asking with pure heart. Different from some I think that the Blue Fairy is not big into making big politics, she helps individuals, and any help she can offer has limits, with good reason in my opinion. I still wonder what Rumple did to end that one Ogre war – but we know other wars followed so it had no lasting effects. He cared only as long as it was a threat to his son. And I am not convinced if whatever Rumple did to end this one war was really that good in the long run.
We’ve seen Rumple kill a villager for pretty much nothing, just to make sure no one would dare to even look wrong at his son. In the woods the other kids were too afraid to stay around and play with Bae because of his father. Morraine was in Bae’s age and had a bit of thing for him, so despite being scarred of Rumple she sat down with Bae (she was afraid, at least that is what I saw in her body language, she said otherwise to encourage Bae). This was a girl being nice despite her fears and not at all sneaky. I for one could very well understand why she set off when she heard Rumple returning, one way or the other she was smart enough to know that Rumple had turned into a bit of a control freak and might have not been all happy seeing her.
Bae called for the Reul Ghorm, and asked for help. The wishing thing that was told later in the Fairy Tale Lands is legend. The important thing is, that someone is asking for help.
Right, Rumple wasn’t wishing anything and not asking for help, but should the Blue Fairy have left his call for her unanswered? Rumple had something to discuss with her, or not? If she hadn’t answered many would accuse her even more to be suspicious and up to something. She wasn’t there to fulfill a wish (Rumple hardly was still pure of heart by the way), but to answer to Rumple.
Blue didn’t interfere with Bae unasked for. If she could be accused of anything then that she didn’t arrange for a family conference between Bae and Rumple to discuss matters with her, but somehow doubt that would have done much good. Sooner or later Rumple would have driven his son away.
So far I have no reason at all to suspect, that at some point as kid or teenager, sometime before Daniel was killed and Regina lost purity of heart, that before that Regina wished for the Blue Fairy (using whatever name for her) or asked her for help. Regina didn’t ask for it so the Blue Fairy didn’t help. And I don’t see the fairies as the equivalent of a social service of the Fairy Tale lands, who by some law have to interfere if a kid is abused or in danger. The fairies are beings you can ask for help, then they do what they can, the good fairies with good intentions, dark fairies probably not so good ones. All they can do is give you some means to change your situation, it is nevertheless still up to you what you make of it in the end.
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March 22, 2013 at 8:06 pm #181695PriceofMagicParticipantThere is something about Blue Fairy that makes people doubt her. Nobody questions the motives of other good characters so why Blue Fairy?
Also Blue Fairy interfered between Nova and Dreamy. They were going to run off and sail away together, why didn’t Blue Fairy leave them be?
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