Blue — Is she really good?

[jj_once]

Ok, so this is a completely crazy theory, and I’m just putting it out there to see if someone has any ideas on it. I apologize if there’s a thread on this already, but I couldn’t find it.

I’ve heard some people somewhere commenting on this theory that Blue is actually the mastermind behind all this curse business, and at first I was like: “Pfff, are you high?”. But then I kind of started thinking this through and it occurred to me that it would be a really cool way for this story to go. Here are some of the things I thought:

1) Blue was the one who kind of gave Rumple the first idea for the curse, and she was the one who sent Bae away, making Rumple wanna go after him. The way the show makes it look, the Blue fairy showed up to help Bae, and Rumple decided not to go with him, and he arrived at this idea that a way to go after Bae was through a curse on his own, despite Blue’s protests. But if you watch that scene again, you could really see her getting Rumple there, even to the point of telling him it would need to be something involving the entire land, and making it seem like it was his idea! If she just wanted him to forget about it, she could just have disappeared and not answered his questions. She’s a fairy after all.

2) She broke up Nova and Grumpy, who obviously loved each other. I don’t have any theories as to why, but I certainly did not buy her sorry explanation that they had destinies to fulfill or whatever. Isn’t true love the most important thing in FTL, and you only get one? And if you don’t find it or lose it, you become miserable? So why would a good character even suggest that?

3) We already know (or at least it’s pretty clear to me) that Rumple manipulated everyone from Cora to Regina to god knows who else JUST so he could come to our world after Bae. But is that ALL there is to it? It feels like it would be a little too simple if that were everything. I mean, if we can figure it out after one season, it’s not much of a mystery, is it? It would be a much more complex story if there was another motive even behind Rumple’s, if someone else had manipulated him into manipulating Cora and Regina so she would cast the curse. And I think that could be Blue. But I have no idea why.

4) I could be wrong, but I don’t think it was ever clearly established that Blue didn’t remember her FTL self. And isn’t that weird? She also talked to August about something in episode 19, and we know HE knows who he is… Blue says they talked about advice, but why would he go there for simple advice, which he obviously didn’t need? What did they REALLY talk about?

5) Rumple HATES the “nuns”. He has categorically stated this, and said that “he has his reasons” for hating them. Which is what, that they’re fairies? That Blue gave Bae that bean? I don’t know. He says more than once that he could double their rent.

6) She already lied once that we know of. After she gave Bae the bean and he went wherever it is he went, she told Rumple that there were no more beans. And we know that isn’t true, because we see Hook open the portal with a bean after that. Plus, the beans clearly belonged to the Giants, and someone stole them, which makes me think that anyone with a bean can’t be that good of a person. Or fairy,

Anyway, those are my main points. I’d love to hear what you guys think, and please do correct me if I’m wrong on these. I don’t have the best memory ever for details…

Thanks!

[Grimmsister]

Yes yes yes I agree so much with this!! or to an extent 🙂

Because there might still be ‘good intentions’ behind Blue. I mean what this series establishes over and over again is that the ultimate Evil is not a person. And neither is the ultimate Good.
The intentions and choices can be either good or bad or take you in one of those directions.

A big revalation in my mind, when i thought about it, was that these are Fairytales– considering how much the writers of OUAT put in too words and names. I think it is the- Fairys tales. Blue wrote Henrys book, just like a curse, in order to make those stories happen the way she needed it to, for some reason. That reason might be that they were running out of magic power in fairytaleland, so they needed to go to our world, to find new resources. 😀

That is an elaborate theory and it is all just speculation, but in my mind this would be a good story, so I hope it holds up to some extent.

[jj_once]

That’s a good point, that no characters are completely evil or good, and I think it’s one of my favorite things about this show. So maybe she did have a reason to do all this that was “good”. And it makes sense that she would go after the most powerful person she could find.

I also like this idea of Fairy Tales, I never thought about that… although I think it’s more likely that Gold planted Henry’s book, since it failed to mention him, and he wanted the curse broken. Or even August, I think those two are safer bets than Blue. But it wouldn’t surprise me if it turned out to be her

[TheGoldenKey]

I know a lot of people question her integrity and honesty, but I’ve got to go with what Kitsis & Horowitz clearly said. She’s the good guy. They weren’t ambiguous about it, they said it straight out. So there’s really no question that she’s good.

Keeper of Pandora's Box & The Yellow Brick Road.

[Grimmsister]

Hmm but those guys never gives straight answers.. When did you hear them say that ?

If non of the characters are pure evil, then how can there be one pure good ?

[Myril]

Some interesting details and points you’re bringing up here, Medchen. As already has been said, there is no pure good or evil in this show though, people make good choices or bad ones, have good or bad intentions. So a person mostly might be a good person with good intentions and still sometimes do bad things or what she does turns out bad. Take for example when Snow helped Red to see Peter behind Grandma Lucas’ back, believing he is the wolf and that they could and should help him – all good intentions but the story ended very bad. No one though would even start to question, if Snow had other motives (like maybe she wanted to recrut Red as her bodyguard or so, to have a better chance against Regina), because in Snow’s case we all believe she is good (helps that she doesn’t wield any power, aka magic, just the power of being the selfless and empathetic person she is)

Now with the Blue Fairy: think she is a good person, but still someone with plenty of magic power. And magic comes with a price, no one, not even the Dark One or the Fairies are fully in control of it, and seems most of the times someone else has to pay the price. The (good) fairies are very well aware of that, I think, and so more cautious about using magic, nevertheless they use it, to bring hopefully more good than bad into the world. To do that though they might as well be inclined to keep things somewhat in order (like that dwarfs are dwarfs, fairies are fairies, and both are meant to have no emotions on their own, if anything just empathy for and or the wish to serve others). The Blue Fairy is good, but as well she is manipulative, not as much as Rumple, but nevertheless.

Is the Blue Fairy the mastermind behind everything? No. Doubt there is any mastermind at all. In retrospect it looks like everything happened for a reason and is part of a big plan, but doesn’t mean there ever has been one. We just prefer things to make sense, so we tell and remember them in ways, which can create sense and logic where there is none (hope, that makes sense).

I do agree, there might be more about the Blue Fairy than we know so far, that she is more involved in what happened than we have yet seen. She might have had the memories of her FTL identity all the time, but without the power. If I were Rumple would have actually made sure of it, included this somehow in the Dark curse as punishment and eventually as a kind of fail safe as well (twisted mind). As possible it is that the Blue Fairy could have had means to at least somewhat protect herself from the curse, not all of its effects but at least th memory-loss effect. I too doubt, that August / Pinocchio acted in our world totally on his own.

¯\_(?????? ?)_/¯

[Grimmsister]

@myril wrote:

Now with the Blue Fairy: think she is a good person, but still someone with plenty of magic power. And magic comes with a price, no one, not even the Dark One or the Fairies are fully in control of it, and seems most of the times someone else has to pay the price. The (good) fairies are very well aware of that, I think, and so more cautious about using magic, nevertheless they use it, to bring hopefully more good than bad into the world. To do that though they might as well be inclined to keep things somewhat in order (like that dwarfs are dwarfs, fairies are fairies, and both are meant to have no emotions on their own, if anything just empathy for and or the wish to serve others). The Blue Fairy is good, but as well she is manipulative, not as much as Rumple, but nevertheless.

Good stuff that. The Fairys knows about the price.. might as well make somebody else pay, and go hite and look all innocent !
They want to bring good to the world, you say. And I like that idea, though I perhabs persieve it different then what you intented. They want to make the world a better place, therefore they must keep “things”-(people?) in order !!!!!! Thats totally communism gone bad, or utopia gone crazy- whats the word ?

@myril wrote:

I too doubt, that August / Pinocchio acted in our world totally on his own.

Yes well he is the puppet 😆

[TheGoldenKey]

@medchen wrote:

Hmm but those guys never gives straight answers.. When did you hear them say that ?

If non of the characters are pure evil, then how can there be one pure good ?

Yes they do give us straight answers and other times they’ll give us ambiguous answers. That’s why it’s important to pay attention to what they say. They clearly stated that she was good in one of their Season 2 podcasts. You can find them on itunes.

Keeper of Pandora's Box & The Yellow Brick Road.

[gypsy]

I just don’t get what her motive would be to go through so much to get the Dark Curse cast only to have it broken?

Plus, like TGK said, some things K&H say are pretty straight forward.

[Grimmsister]

Well you could be right, must admit I havn’t listened to any podcasted interview with Kitsis and Horrorwitz jet. so don’t know about that.
Blue’s motivation could be to get to new resources or something along the lines of ‘destiny wills it that way’ I’m not sure, could be millions of things.

Just saying. Because I really really like the idea of the Blue star having contemplated the whole thing in the name of order and destiny– out og her fear really. And then all the story book characters fighting to gain their freewill. Kind of a thing…..
So maybe I will just wish on a star. We will see if it comes true…’ I usually wish and wish but nothing happens, I wish I was better at wishing’ 😀

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