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April 14, 2012 at 2:45 am #134194hjbauParticipant
I found some pretty good quality screencaps of the bottles on Rumpel’s shelf and i just wanted to post them to see if anyone has any thoughts about these being the ingredients for the dark curse and what each bottle is. If you click on the link you can see a bigger screencap.
[adrotate group="5"]April 14, 2012 at 3:14 am #142130pandoras impParticipantI must be going nuts
the second symbol one from the left on the top shelf looks like a darth vader helmetThe top shelf -far left, I think is a cloud, so representing wind? Maybe dreams?
Then Darth vader. A feather, maybe an apple and then death. I think the last symbol might be a treeOn the lower shelf theres a crown so royalty? A moon, true love, and the sun. In paganism the moon represents the femine and the sun the masculine so maybe its not a coincedence they have true love between these opposites. I can’t make out the other two.
April 14, 2012 at 1:27 pm #142183obisgirlParticipanton the top shelf, second bottle closest to the right, looks like a skull and crossbones, representing ‘death’.
April 14, 2012 at 1:42 pm #142185PheeParticipant@Pandora’s Imp wrote:
I must be going nuts
the second symbol one from the left on the top shelf looks like a darth vader helmetLOL It does a bit! Actually it’s Borromean rings (and no I didn’t know that fancy word off the top of my head, thank you google and wikipedia).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borromean_rings
The name “Borromean rings” comes from their use in the coat of arms of the aristocratic Borromeo family in Italy. The link itself is much older and has appeared in Gandhara (Afghan) Buddhist art from around the 2nd century[citation needed], and in the form of the valknut on Norse image stones dating back to the 7th century.The Borromean rings have been used in different contexts to indicate strength in unity, e.g., in religion or art. In particular, some have used the design to symbolize the Trinity. The psychoanalyst Jacques Lacan famously found inspiration in the Borromean rings as a model for his topology of human subjectivity, with each ring representing a fundamental Lacanian component of reality (the “real”, the “imaginary”, and the “symbolic”).
The one before the skull and crossbones looks like a snake with its tail in its mouth. Which leads me to the next fancy word I had to google:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ouroboros
The Ouroboros represents the perpetual cyclic renewal of life and infinity, the concept of eternity and the eternal return, and represents the cycle of life, death and rebirth, leading to immortality, as in the phoenix.It can also represent the idea of primordial unity related to something existing in or persisting before any beginning with such force or qualities it cannot be extinguished. The ouroboros has been important in religious and mythological symbolism, but has also been frequently used in alchemical illustrations, where it symbolizes the circular nature of the alchemist’s opus. It is also often associated with Gnosticism, and Hermeticism.
Carl Jung interpreted the Ouroboros as having an archetypal significance to the human psyche. The Jungian psychologist Erich Neumann writes of it as a representation of the pre-ego “dawn state”, depicting the undifferentiated infancy experience of both mankind and the individual child.
Also, the triangle with the point facing upwards is the symbol for fire. That’s on the label with the moon, and also appears to be on the one at the right end of the top shelf, though I can’t make out what that squiggle above it is meant to be.
Another meaning for triangles (which is actually quite fitting in this instance):
Triangle: In Ancient Egypt the Triangle was seen as a symbol of intelligence and indicated the capacity for love. The Buddhists utilze this geometric pattern in the Sri Yantra mandala as a tool to invoke the energy of love. The triangle also deals with the love represented in the mother, father, child union as well as the holy trinity. Additionally, this symbol has long been recognized as a sign of balance and creativity.
Source: http://www.tarotteachings.com/symbol-meanings-of-tarot-s-z.htmlThat same site says this about clouds, (which the first one on the upper shelf seems to be):
Clouds hold the symbol meaning of revelation. Consider out of the mists of our deepest thoughts suddenly an epiphany comes, a bright idea comes out from nowhere – this is the basic cloud symbol meaning. Depending on the card, clouds can also symbolize confusion or clouded judgment. Primarily, clouds represent higher thought and messages from the divine.April 14, 2012 at 3:08 pm #142195hjbauParticipantGreat research Phee. I really like all of those ideas. If these are the ingredients to the dark curse i wonder if we will ever get more detailed information about them.
April 16, 2012 at 2:54 pm #142536pandoras impParticipantActually it’s Borromean rings
Thank you, This makes much more sense than a dark sith. LOL
If we are looking at tarot meaning the moon in the tarot represents dreams, illusions,imagination, whimsy and things not being what they appear.
The sun represents joy, growth, abundance and sometimes can symbolize the birth of a child.
Death in the tarot actually rarely means physical death, its a card of transformation.
April 16, 2012 at 6:50 pm #142558hjbauParticipantThat is all so interesting. I wonder if they will ever explain all of the ingredients. Probably not.
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