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Merida is trying to make Rumple brave by forcing Rumple to fight using Belle. Do you think she can succeed? And do you think this how someone becomes brave, does it fit with the themes of this show?
Also, how in the world does Merida know about the book? And how did she get into the office?
[adrotate group="5"]"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"I highly disagree with Merida’s teachings…it goes against all Disney rules with being a true hero! A true hero isn’t measured by the size of his strength, but by the size of his heart!
As for how Merida knew everything, more than likely Emma controlling her heart, told her everywhere to go and look.
"If you go as far as you can see...you will then see enough to go even further." - Finn Balor
Also, how in the world does Merida know about the book? And how did she get into the office?
I briefly thought Rumpel was telling her to go steal some things to do some kind of a spell or something but he apparently knew nothing about what was occurring so….. idk. Maybe Emma’s order on her heart led her to do it. She has to force this man to be brave by amgical compulsion…maybe it just enlighted her on where to go and what to do.
Example: In Harry Potter and The Half Blood Prince when harry drank the luck potion to help him get a memory from slughorn, it just made him feel like he should go see hagrid which in turn led to harry getting what he wanted (a memory from Slughorn). Maybe it was like that. The order was teach him to be brave and in order to do that, she had to give him a reason to, so the magic pushed her in the direction of the book, which led her to the cup, which led her to fulfilling her order.
It’s magic.
"I could have the giant duck as my steed!" --Daniel Radcliffe
Keeper Of Tamara's Taser , Jafar's Staff, Kitsis’s Glasses , Ariel’s Tail, Dopey's Hat , Peter Pan’s Shadow, Outfit, & Pied Cloak,Red Queen's Castle, White Rabbit's Power To World Hop, Zelena's BroomStick, & ALL MAGICI’m convinced that ultimately Rumple’s love for Belle will be what makes him a hero. That and loving her selflessly–not desperately as he mostly did with his son (his love for Bae was strong and true, but the weakness was that his fear of losing Bae was stronger and drove him to do desperate things even when it wasn’t ultimately in Bae’s best interest).
When he was his most heroic, it was when he was willing to let go of Belle and Neal to save their lives.
To be a hero, he will need to develop that little bit of love that the apprentice left within his heart. Belle is his strength and that makes my Rumbeller heart happy.
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And do you think this how someone becomes brave, does it fit with the themes of this show?
That would be a big fat no. Taking up arms is not the only path towards heroism. Let’s look at Belle, since her bravery was contrasted with Rumple’s cowardice early on. She was a hero who saved her people, but who did so without resorting to violence. From Skin Deep:
Belle: I always wanted to be brave. I figured, do the brave thing, and bravery would follow.
Also, let’s not forget how Rumple already scarified himself to save his family, which is the very epitome of heroism. Moreover, claiming one must learn to fight with a weapon to be brave is incredibly insulting to people who are disabled. Rumple without magic is physically unable to defend himself with a sword, but it doesn’t disqualify him from showing courage in other ways besides physical prowess.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
I highly disagree with Merida’s teachings…it goes against all Disney rules with being a true hero! A true hero isn’t measured by the size of his strength, but by the size of his heart!
In her own way Merida’s training is strengthening his heart or at least allowing him to channel the love he feels into his combat. What we know is that Rumple is know as a coward and allows his fear to cripple him, Merida seems to using swordplay and taunting him with the teacup as a representation of the line
“Courage is not the absence of fear, but rather the judgement that something else is more important than fear”
If her intention is to suppress Rumple’s fears through focusing his love for Belle, Merida may have a great strategy on her hands.
“The truth isn't easily pinned to a page. In the bathtub of history the truth is harder to hold than the soap and much more difficult to find.” - Terry Pratchett
Well, it always makes my twitchy when they harp on Rumple being a coward, because frankly I think it’s quite sensible to want to be there for your newborn child rather than suffering a brutal death in war. But I’m a big ole “war what is it good for” hippie, and the show seems intent on labeling him a coward for being a deserter, so whatever.
Anyway, did I mis-hear it, or did Merida have a line about, “Before you take on Emma” when she was training Rumple? As in, even though she’s being ordered to train him, she has an ulterior motive of training him up so he can take down Emma, as opposed to helping her? If that’s the case, then this whole IT’S BRAVE, YOU GUYS, BECAUSE HER MOVIE IS BRAVE AND SHE’S MAKING HIM BRAVE, GET IT, thing grates a little bit less, because it’s not quite as straight forward.
Oh yes, Merida has her own plans. You saw how she ran at Emma to try to break the spell and get her heart back. She has no choice but to try to make Rumple a hero, but she intends to use him to defeat Emma. However, Merida’s not been shown (here or in Brave) to be the most complex of planners–her first plan is almost always to whack stuff with a sword or shoot it with her arrows. She’s good with strategy, but not great; Emma and Rumple, however, have both become master manipulators at this point (and Emma was always good at outthinking her targets–she’s just got more abilities now). I think Merida got her father’s brawn and her brothers got her mother’s brains (they’re definitely better schemers and I so hope we get to meet them on the show).
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Merida is trying to make Rumple brave by forcing Rumple to fight using Belle. Do you think she can succeed? And do you think this how someone becomes brave, does it fit with the themes of this show?
Can I just say how incredibly irritated I am with this storyline? The whole equation of bravery and martial prowess in popular media actually perpetuates a kind of toxic masculinity of which we collectively could use less of. Maybe we can send A&E a link to Gandhi’s “The Doctrine of the Sword” — looks like they could maybe use a refresher on the whole non-violence bit. And, lets face it, on their post-colonial literature more broadly — won’t hurt. Gah.
[climbs down from soapbox]
I think Merida’s going about it the wrong way, but I think she is fundamentally a good character, therefore I could imagine that her efforts actually might result in something positive. That being said, if that’s the case, I don’t think making Rumple fight is what’s going to do the trick. The task is to make Rumple hate and doubt himself a bit less, realize his love for Belle is bigger than his insecurities, and finally let go of the world’s judgement of him.
“Before you take on Emma” when she was training Rumple?
Yes! That was interesting — I was wondering about the exact same thing. That seemed like an interesting little slip. But if so, why does Merida think that Rumple should be the one to take on Emma? I can imagine that the final battle will be between whoever wields the sword and whoever wields the dagger, and right now Arthur’s out of the race.
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