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December 5, 2013 at 9:08 pm #228291
RumplesGirl
KeymasterAs his mother died, some sort of magical breath SOMETHING happened to little Jafar. Later when the Sultan tried to kill Jafar, Jafar came back to life.
What happened to little Jafar?
Can he die? Is he immortal?
[adrotate group="5"]"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"December 5, 2013 at 9:30 pm #228303Hook’s Girl
ParticipantI think Jafar can die, whether he’s immortal or not. Just like Rumple can die even though he’s immortal. Just need to find out what the correct tool is that will kill him.
Nothing is impossible on OUAT. Everything has a way of repeating itself. Keeper of the Keeper tread: https://oncepodcast.com/forums/topic/official-keeper-thread-3/#post-217924
December 5, 2013 at 9:38 pm #228305RumplesGirl
KeymasterHe obviously ages with time, unlike Rumple.
Does anyone else think that Jafar will be turned into a genie, trapped in a bottle like in the Aladdin movie? Maybe it’s not a matter of killing him so much as trapping him. The Sultan did say tonight, “are you sure you’re not in a cage?” as if foreshadowing.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"December 5, 2013 at 9:56 pm #228317TheWatcher
ParticipantHe obviously ages with time, unlike Rumple. Does anyone else think that Jafar will be turned into a genie, trapped in a bottle like in the Aladdin movie? Maybe it’s not a matter of killing him so much as trapping him. The Sultan did say tonight, “are you sure you’re not in a cage?” as if foreshadowing.
indeed I do. I think Jafar is going to make a very big wish as a last resort (when his plans have failed and he is down to his last wish) he will make the wish to be all powerful and thus become a genie, or he will wish for something but word it wrong and become a genie as the result
"I could have the giant duck as my steed!" --Daniel Radcliffe
Keeper Of Tamara's Taser , Jafar's Staff, Kitsis’s Glasses , Ariel’s Tail, Dopey's Hat , Peter Pan’s Shadow, Outfit, & Pied Cloak,Red Queen's Castle, White Rabbit's Power To World Hop, Zelena's BroomStick, & ALL MAGICDecember 5, 2013 at 9:57 pm #228318TheWatcher
ParticipantAlso… What do we know about sand monsters in myth? I remember the Cave of Wonders was a giant sand tiger… Maybe that has something to do with it. I mean they already estvished magic cannot revive the dead, yet Jafar is still pumping it
"I could have the giant duck as my steed!" --Daniel Radcliffe
Keeper Of Tamara's Taser , Jafar's Staff, Kitsis’s Glasses , Ariel’s Tail, Dopey's Hat , Peter Pan’s Shadow, Outfit, & Pied Cloak,Red Queen's Castle, White Rabbit's Power To World Hop, Zelena's BroomStick, & ALL MAGICDecember 5, 2013 at 10:05 pm #228324RumplesGirl
KeymasterRumplesGirl wrote: He obviously ages with time, unlike Rumple. Does anyone else think that Jafar will be turned into a genie, trapped in a bottle like in the Aladdin movie? Maybe it’s not a matter of killing him so much as trapping him. The Sultan did say tonight, “are you sure you’re not in a cage?” as if foreshadowing.
indeed I do. I think Jafar is going to make a very big wish as a last resort (when his plans have failed and he is down to his last wish) he will make the wish to be all powerful and thus become a genie, or he will wish for something but word it wrong and become a genie as the result
I agree. All magic comes with a price. Alice will wish him to become an all powerful genie and wind up inside Cyrus’ bottle, Cyrus having been freed or something.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"December 6, 2013 at 12:20 am #228386darkones1fan
ParticipantMy guess is perhaps Jafar is just blessed by the forces of darkness and evil (Like Chernabog) It all part of the grand designs of higher darker powers. Or maybe it just the magic of anger that brought him back I don’t know.
December 6, 2013 at 12:23 am #228387darkones1fan
ParticipantIt reminds me a bit of what they said about Jafar in the Kingdom Hearts Games
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQ2vrD9Z7jM
December 6, 2013 at 12:42 am #228392RumplesGirl
KeymasterMy guess is perhaps Jafar is just blessed by the forces of darkness and evil (Like Chernabog) It all part of the grand designs of higher darker powers. Or maybe it just the magic of anger that brought him back I don’t know.
But there was *something* that happened each time death happened around Jafar. When his mother died, some sort of weird wind happened plus glow-y sand something sorta floated around him. Then right before he “came back” after the Sultan tried to kill him, the wind blew and the glow-y thing happened again. These “higher darker powers” of which you speak haven’t been shown or elaborated on in either ONCE or ONCEWL. And given that WL is only 13 episodes I don’t know if they’d have time for some sort of metaphysical examination of “high dark powers.” Jafar’s mother was a healer. She cured many people, according to Jafar and she gave him that ring. A ring he is NEVER without. I think that ring is somehow tied to his ability.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"December 6, 2013 at 12:55 am #228395Phee
ParticipantI think Jafar is going to make a very big wish as a last resort (when his plans have failed and he is down to his last wish) he will make the wish to be all powerful and thus become a genie, or he will wish for something but word it wrong and become a genie as the result
Agreed. They made a point in this ep of once again raising the topic of wishes having consequences, and couple that with the comment about Jafar being locked in a cage.
Jafar’s mother was a healer. She cured many people, according to Jafar and she gave him that ring. A ring he is NEVER without. I think that ring is somehow tied to his ability.
Could well be. There seemed to be symbols engraved around the stone in the ring, so maybe it’s something magical and whoever possesses it can’t die? Jafar’s mother died right after she’d handed it over to him.
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