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December 6, 2013 at 1:22 am #228403PheeParticipant
Well now I’m irritated and wanna slap someone in the costume department because I went to screencap the ring and it seriously looks like they used 3 different rings. Urgh.
Ring #1, when his mother gives it to him and dies…
Ring #2, the scene it cuts to immediately after, with Jafar at Alice’s father’s house (similar to the first one, but not sure that it’s an exact match)…
Ring #3, when Jafar holds out his hand for the Sultan (totally different markings)…
[adrotate group="5"]December 6, 2013 at 7:20 am #228418kfchimeraParticipantIn the original Aladdin story there is a genie of a ring and in a bottle. I don’t know what that means in OUAT myths though. Could the ring be something that came from a wish and the inability to love/inability to die is tied to it?
Maybe Jafar’ mother used a wish to save herself or become a healer and that magic ring keeps you alive but at the cost you cannot feel love for others? I don’t know why but I feel like if magic cannot make you love someone it does seem like it could make you stop (by taking away memories or perhaps even directly removing a heart).
“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass
December 6, 2013 at 8:18 am #228424RumplesGirlKeymasterCould the ring be something that came from a wish and the inability to love/inability to die is tied to it?
Interesting thought. Except that I don’t know if I’d say Jafar has the inability to love. I think he loves quite deeply (like father) but his attempts at getting that love in return are his downfall.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"December 6, 2013 at 3:32 pm #228511darkones1fanParticipantI agree with you on the ring it I believe it is definitely something special. Now I wonder if the ring is made of light or dark magic. My guess dark since red and grey are never good signs.
December 6, 2013 at 7:15 pm #228562PriceofMagicParticipantPerhaps on her deathbed, Jafar’s mother ensured no harm would come to her son. In Harry Potter, Lily’s sacrifice protected Harry until Voldemort’s resurrection.
I think Jafar will get contained rather than killed “a fate worse than death”.
All magic comes with a price!
Keeper of FelixDecember 6, 2013 at 7:19 pm #228563RumplesGirlKeymasterPerhaps on her deathbed, Jafar’s mother ensured no harm would come to her son. In Harry Potter, Lily’s sacrifice protected Harry until Voldemort’s resurrection. I think Jafar will get contained rather than killed “a fate worse than death”.
I do too. My headcanon right now is that Alice will use her final wish to make Jafar a genie but the price of making him all powerful is that he gets trapped in a “itty bitty living space” like in the Aladdin movie. Then (somehow) Cyrus has been freed and they bury Jafar’s lamp/bottle/thing far far far away where it can never be found.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"December 7, 2013 at 4:07 pm #228680darkones1fanParticipantOkay I have a new theory about how Jafar was brought back to life. I think perhaps it was a special kind of magic that brought him back…the magic of …Will power! Yes Jafar willed himself to be brought back and his will to get revenge was so strong that it brought him back.
December 7, 2013 at 4:19 pm #228681darkones1fanParticipantI think Jafar will get contained rather than killed “a fate worse than death”.
Yes…In a Genies lamp.
December 7, 2013 at 4:26 pm #228682TheWatcherParticipantIn the original Aladdin story there is a genie of a ring and in a bottle. I don’t know what that means in OUAT myths though. Could the ring be something that came from a wish and the inability to love/inability to die is tied to it? Maybe Jafar’ mother used a wish to save herself or become a healer and that magic ring keeps you alive but at the cost you cannot feel love for others? I don’t know why but I feel like if magic cannot make you love someone it does seem like it could make you stop (by taking away memories or perhaps even directly removing a heart).
Maybe the ting causes the user to always be unloved. That’s why Jafars mom wasn’t loved by the sultan and Jafar wasn’t either.
"I could have the giant duck as my steed!" --Daniel Radcliffe
Keeper Of Tamara's Taser , Jafar's Staff, Kitsis’s Glasses , Ariel’s Tail, Dopey's Hat , Peter Pan’s Shadow, Outfit, & Pied Cloak,Red Queen's Castle, White Rabbit's Power To World Hop, Zelena's BroomStick, & ALL MAGICDecember 14, 2013 at 1:55 pm #230555Mark AthertonParticipantI think Jafar CAN die, but I doubt he WILL. My bet on his final fate is that it’ll be the same one from the movie: become a genie and get sealed away. That way it leaves an opening for him to get unleashed in OUAT.
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