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I’m having visions of Robin Hood from Shrek singing “When a beauty’s with a beast it makes me awfully mad…” now.
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@RumbelleDearie wrote:
Ah okay, well fingers crossed for Hook then haha! I’d say that he pops up during the birthday party and that’s why they all look shocked in that photo but it seems likely that’s just a dream :-/
Hook bursting in on the birthday party is a definite possibility IMO. That would be much more awesome than the whole scene being a dream.
Finally a solid Daddy/Daughter moment- YAY!!! 😀 It really is the best part of that promo 😀
Regarding Owen being the child referred to in the prophecy & also ‘when’ the EQ pics fit in- I found this little gem of an interview on youtube from after? paleyfest & it answers both those questions nicely:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8uLm-ltWVVYEddy says “He has the prophecy that Henry will be his undoing” So it seems more likely it is indeed Henry rather than Owen, unless they twist his statement- which they could… but it makes less sense to do so, as being Henry, it gives Rumple chances to choose love over power & help him towards redemption– choosing between Owen & power = dead Owen.
Choosing between Henry & power = VERY, VERY tough decisions for him to make ie. how much does he want love, how much does he want Belle & Bae in his life, what happens when Emma, Snowings, & Regina, as well as pretty much all of SB find out- cause eventually they will, the list goes on & killing Henry means Hook will have a VERY long line of supporters in his gold hunting efforts 😉Eddy goes on to talk about the Evil Queen ep- “we are going to find a surprising little slice/chapter of her life, in the early days, of when she took over & got rid of Snow's father” & A&E both say there are other EQ's/no shortage of evil on their show….looking forward to seeing what Regina got up to in her early days of ruling.
Anyone else catch Rumple holding ‘his’ wand over Henry’s head? Protection spell I hope!
Oh & I forgot to mention that the daddy/daughter moment could be Charming comforting Emma after Henry is discovered missing- maybe they leave a kind of ransom note ie. ‘When I get my father, you’ll get your son’ & Emma blames herself for putting Henry in the middle of all this. Charming would be understanding of her sending her child off for his own good – it’s what he had to do after all, Or it could be after a scuffle with Greg & Tamara or even Regina, where Emma realizes SB simply isn’t safe anymore & feels torn between staying with & fighting for her family/ loved one’s & friends (personally I think that for Emma, ‘home’ is where her loved ones are) or taking Henry & leaving to safer ground. It could also explain Emma’s face & the dock scene with Regina maybe.
1) I do think it’s Henry because that is much more dramatic and interesting to watch.
2) Good idea about the DaddyCharming moment. And with that bruise on the side of Emma’s head, I’m going to guess that there was a huge fight right beforehand.
3) Re: Where is Hook? I still think Tamara has him held up somewhere. And I still think that birthday party is a dream of Rumple or Bae.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"I agree- I think the boy in the prophecy is Henry…anyone else is a bit of a stretch, and as RumplesGirl stated, it’s the most dramatic and interesting option. We still don’t know exactly what undoing means. it’s very open to interpretation.
I wonder if Henry will be the Dark One’s undoing because Henry will get in trouble and Rumple will in the end be the one to actually save him, much to his own surprise. I predict this huge internal struggle.
@Surayya wrote:
Regarding Owen being the child referred to in the prophecy & also ‘when’ the EQ pics fit in- I found this little gem of an interview on youtube from after? paleyfest & it answers both those questions nicely:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8uLm-ltWVVYEddy says “He has the prophecy that Henry will be his undoing” So it seems more likely it is indeed Henry rather than Owen, unless they twist his statement- which they could… but it makes less sense to do so, as being Henry, it gives Rumple chances to choose love over power & help him towards redemption– choosing between Owen & power = dead Owen.
Edward Kitsis means Rumple believes Henry will be his undoing, not that Henry actually is the prophesied boy. I agree making it Henry would be very interesting for Rumple to choose love vs. power, but even just confusing Henry for the prophesied boy would be enough to give Rumple a moral dilemma. He might be so busy believing that Henry is his undoing that he completely misses the real threat that Owen presents to him, his son, and even Henry. And I still think “undoing” means the undoing of the Dark One curse, not Rumple’s death.
I think one needs to be extremely careful when it comes to taking a future prophesy at face-value. That is what got Rumple into trouble to begin with in the Manhattan flashback. He believed the Seer when she said his actions on the battlefield would leave his child fatherless, but he interpreted it to mean he would die during the battle so he wounded himself the night before. He couldn’t escape the prophesy, however, and ended up becoming the Dark One and letting his own son go by his own choices. So, it’s dangerous when Rumple looks at Henry and concludes he is the boy who led him to Baelfire and so he must also be the boy who’ll be his undoing. Rumple said the future is like a puzzle, so it could be less straightforward than Henry being said boy. It could be Owen (or even August).
Choosing between Henry & power = VERY, VERY tough decisions for him to make ie. how much does he want love, how much does he want Belle & Bae in his life, what happens when Emma, Snowings, & Regina, as well as pretty much all of SB find out- cause eventually they will, the list goes on & killing Henry means Hook will have a VERY long line of supporters in his gold hunting efforts 😉
Yes, Henry presents a challenge to his grandfather whether or not Henry is the actual boy in question. The mere belief that Henry is the prophesied child is enough to make Rumple choose love or power. Rumple will still be tempted to remove Henry just because Rumple would perceive him to be a threat (even if Henry doesn’t turn out to be a threat at all).
@Surayya wrote:
Eddy goes on to talk about the Evil Queen ep- “we are going to find a surprising little slice/chapter of her life, in the early days, of when she took over & got rid of Snow's father” & A&E both say there are other EQ's/no shortage of evil on their show….looking forward to seeing what Regina got up to in her early days of ruling.
That’s interesting. I wonder if Regina ran away after the death of King Leopold and was having existential crisis and questioning her life-choices.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
That’s interesting. I wonder if Regina ran away after the death of King Leopold and was having existential crisis and questioning her life-choices.
That would be interesting to watch but by that point she was very much the Evil Queen and in the promo she’s ordering the death of an entire village, though one can hope this weighs heavily on her conscience. I think maybe she figures out that being the Queen and sole ruler isn’t all it’s cracked up to be. She thought she could have it all by being the Queen but it turns out that there is something still missing in her heart, a void she thinks she can fill by killing Snow. Which seems very Regina-like.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"@RumplesGirl wrote:
That’s interesting. I wonder if Regina ran away after the death of King Leopold and was having existential crisis and questioning her life-choices.
That would be interesting to watch but by that point she was very much the Evil Queen and in the promo she’s ordering the death of an entire village, though one can hope this weighs heavily on her conscience. I think maybe she figures out that being the Queen and sole ruler isn’t all it’s cracked up to be. She thought she could have it all by being the Queen but it turns out that there is something still missing in her heart, a void she thinks she can fill by killing Snow. Which seems very Regina-like.
Yeah, it would seem Regina is very evil in this episode, both in the flashbacks and potentially in SB. I just wonder if she ever took the time to step back from her tyranny in the EF to question if this is what she really wants after all. But I do think what she wants most is revenge on Snow White; it’s her vendetta, and she’ll probably disguise herself as an old hag or transform into someone else to fool Snow White. But it looks like Snow is quick to defend herself with a bow and arrow.
This line caught my attention:
A&E both say there are other EQ’s/no shortage of evil on their show
Makes me wonder if we’re going to see more than one Evil Queen. Perhaps we’ll see a flashback of when Maleficent and Regina became dangerous evil diva pals. ETA: Just re-watched the last bit of that interview, and Eddy said there are some evil people we haven’t met yet. Perhaps there’s yet another evil queen besides Regina or Maleficent we’ve yet to meet! Maybe Regina seeks out advice from a more experienced evil patroness.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
This line caught my attention:
A&E both say there are other EQ’s/no shortage of evil on their show
Makes me wonder if we’re going to see more than one Evil Queen. Perhaps we’ll see a flashback of when Maleficent and Regina became dangerous evil diva pals.
That line also caught my attention. They didn’t say shortage of EQ’a in FTL so they meanly broadly. There’s Regina and Maleficent in FTL (and probably others that we haven’t met…). There’s Cora in Wonderland. I also wonder if we’ll find some sort of evil tyrannical figure in the lands we visit from here on out. If mermaids are in NL, we could be looking at an Ursula figure (who was trying to usurp Triton), maybe the Wicked Witch of the West in Oz. They might give Regina room to grow if they focus the evil elsewhere for a short time.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
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