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[Keb]

I’d much rather it was Emma pointing the gun at Neal cuz she probably won’t kill him. I woke up with terrible theories spinning in my head this morning–that Neal’s going to die or almost die and Rumple will have to try to save him–or Henry will have to try to save him and use the candle to trade his life for Rumple’s–and so now I’m just chanting to myself “hope and faith, hope and faith” cuz Neal dying would just crush all my favorite characters way, way too much. (I don’t think Rumple would actually get killed off–him or Regina–cuz I don’t think there’d be a show left without either of them–but…)

[surayya]

@Ser_Dragon wrote:

I really don’t think it’s Emma holding Neal at gun point. Sorry but it would be stupid and jumping the shark point for me. since we haven’t saw the episode yet, obviously, what make most sense for me, right now, is that Tamara is threatening Neal and Emma come to the rescue. Hence her bodyslaming her.

Meh, You are as entitled to your opinion as anyone else is, but not even close to jumping the shark given their past & Emma’s trust issues- esp were Neal is concerned.

The point is, the evidence (clothing) doesn’t fit for Hook – he only has the one costume (which hasn’t changed from the promo & set pics- so it’s not him for sure, there is no way you can twist that to be leather with a loose, ruffled cotton, pirate shirt sleeve sticking out the cuff).
ie.
http://media-cache-ec3.pinterest.com/192x/09/d8/88/09d888a86f39abef7bed74e270088ec8.jpg
http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2012/356/1/f/captain_hook___killian_jones_by_venerka-d5os1im.jpg
http://katykonservativ.files.wordpress.com/2012/11/captain-hook-killian-jones-captain-hook-32569773-2000-1333.jpg
http://images6.fanpop.com/image/photos/32500000/Captain-Hook-killian-jones-captain-hook-32569513-1280-1920.jpg
There are 1000’s like the above- in every position, you see the loose, flowing pirate shirt, sticking out of his massive jacket cuffs & in the screen cap of the hand holding the gun, it is a sweater type material/density with a rolled cuff- point blank, modern clothes.
The pic’s of Tamara being body slammed show her wearing a lycra/polyester type jacket thing- granted none are close enough to get a really good look at the sleeves, but from the ‘body’ of the jacket, it doesn’t appear to be her sleeve, but that is more likely than it being Hooks hand, if the material was looser or the cuff massive with a pattern, then I’d say it is or could be Hook.

As already pointed out, it could also be Regina, as she is wearing a black jacket, which may have small cuffs/ rolled sleeves.

[rumbelledearie]

Hm, I agree it’s Emma pointing the gun at Neal! Didn’t even think it could be at first but her clothing totally matches the person holding the gun. Tamara is wearing a thin dark grey shirt and Emma has on her thick black coat.
Emma doesn’t trust Neal and if she’s caught on to Tamara she’d possibly believe Neal is with her, since he brought her to SB in the first place. It would look suspicious in Emma’s eyes.

[Keb]

And Emma’s been known to point her gun first and ask questions later. Like in Skin Deep when she showed up at Gold’s house and the two of them were (sensibly for the moment) pointing their guns at each other until they established that neither was the thief and Gold lowered his first. So if she burst in being all Sheriffy, she could totally have her gun aimed at Neal for a bit.

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[RumplesGirl]

Wow, this debate is raging on huh?

I didn’t have a chance to read it all but I did read some and here are some thoughts:

–Even if that is a stunt double Emma is picking up and throwing, the stunt double would have to be the look-alike to actual actor. That person is way to tiny to be a man. Also, the blurry face is a darker face, so I’m sticking with Tamara.
–Keith’s only purpose in 19 is as a catalyst for Lacey and Rumple (and as the Sheriff of Nottingham in the FTL of the past). I don’t believe he has anything to do with the major storyline of GOAT.
–Emma is the only holding the gun to Neal: ok, possibility. She could think Neal was in league with Tamara to steal magic. However, I still think it is far more likely that it’s Tamara.

"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"

[kranen]

@Phee wrote:

Makes sense to me if it’s Emma holding the gun on Neal. The way I see it playing out…
Tamara roughs up Neal in the cannery, (for whatever reason)…
She’s about to shoot him when Emma bursts in…
They fight, Emma slams her, while Neal watches, (he’s crouched in the foreground of the body slam shot)…
Emma gets the gun, so then Tamara gives up and runs off…
Emma stalks over to Neal with the gun and demands to know the whole truth about Tamara.

I could see this happening OR Emma finds out that Neal is in trouble, sneaks in and sees that Tamara is over the other side of the room with her back turned talking on the phone to Greg or something like that. So Emma sneaks over to Neal who appears to be tied up, points the gun at him with her finger on her other hand over her mouth to tell him to be quiet. She then runs over and attacks Tamara.

[Phee]

@RumplesGirl wrote:

–Even if that is a stunt double Emma is picking up and throwing, the stunt double would have to be the look-alike to actual actor. That person is way to tiny to be a man. Also, the blurry face is a darker face, so I’m sticking with Tamara.

Did you see this clearer screencap? Confirms that it’s Tamara…
@steliokontos1 wrote:

[RumplesGirl]

I didn’t but thank you Phee! Good to know.

So then the question remains, Emma or Tamara pointing that gun at Neal. It looks like Emma has the upper hand on Tamara from that picture but we also know that Emma is going to be a big bruise on the side of her face. Like maybe where Tamara cold cocked her with the gun and then threatens Neal telling him not to follow GOAT or she’ll kill Henry.

"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"

[CrownedWithLaurels]

@baelish wrote:

@steliokontos1 wrote:

tried to spruce up the photos to make it more clear, I mean c’mon that’s gotta be Tamara

I agree; it totally looks like Tamara.

There is no question to me. The video makes it absolutely clear. There is a very good shot during the body slam.up close where you can see Tamara’s jet black long hair in a bun on her head.

Also, the hand with the gun makes me think it is Tamara. I mean the photo it looks exactly like Tamara. The hand looks nothing like Emma’s, but I understand it could just be shading and shadows that make it look like Tamara’s. I’m going by logic and flow and what we already know plus what the picture looks like and so I say Tamara. But the Emma theories could work. I don’t think she’d think Neal was in cahoots. He looks tied up in that shot. Why would he be tied up if he was working with them? So def just Emma’s nervousness etc if that is the case.

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[surayya]

Like others have said- for sure it is Tamara being bodyslamed, I have next to no doubts there (I will always have that 0.01% doubt- unless 1) The shot is in clear, clean detail & shows whoever doing whatever in a single scene. 2) Until I actually see it play out on the show).

It’s the hand holding the gun debate now 😉 lol

All I know, for reasons I’ve already pointed out…with pretty pictures too 😀 😉 is that the hand is not Hook’s, of that I’m 99.99999999999% sure (as sure as I am that it’s Tamara being body slammed).

It could be Tamara, I cant get a good look at her jacket sleeves or it could be Regina, there is also a slim chance it’s Owen (he has a black woolen jacket from memory)…. but it’s most likely Emma (I’m almost certain at this point), given the clothing she is wearing in the those sets of scenes- you can almost make out the exact same style of sleeve, including the rolled ends/cuff in the still of her facing the camera, while in the throws of body slamming Tamara.

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