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[RumplesGirl]

Phee wrote:Which is why I was wondering where their lair is, because if it’s under the hospital, (they may well have electro-shock equipment down there, because Nurse Ratched loved that stuff), then that probably means Kurt isn’t there like everyone has assumed, because if Kurt was down there too, they would have found him. What we’ve seen of Greg in the finale doesn’t suggest that he’s found his dad and wants to stay with him. So either they’re not under the hospital, or we were all wrong about what happened to Kurt, which in turn begs the question of what did happen to him?

If Regina is being held captive in the basement, it’s likely there would be a sort of “torture chamber” in the form of electro-shock therapy. It’s still possible that Kurt Flynn could be down there, too, but he might have gone crazy (which could drive Owen Flynn to want revenge). Otherwise, perhaps Regina is being held inside her own vault, which was where she hid out during the Cricket Game fiasco. Perhaps Tamara has a portable shock-therapy kit.

It could also be that his name isn’t on the door and if they don’t suspect him of being there, they may just not go looking into random asylum rooms.

@HappyEndings wrote:

I can’t seem to find that post that someone had noticed that Emma has a bruised cheek when David gives Emma a kiss so why would Emma have a bruise ❓

Also, I agree I don’t think they would fake another funeral as they did before.

If Emma has a bruise my biggest guess is some sort of battle. I’m thinking that shot is from 21/22. Maybe it’s right after Henry is kidnapped. Charming knows a lot about losing your child and is comforting her. The question then who gave Emma the bruise. If it is after GOAT stole Henry then it’s not one of them.

[HappyEndings]

I wonder if Emma gets that bruise while she was with Regina she got blind sighted by the 3 of them, Hook is the only one that likes to hit women so I bet he knocks her out while Tamara tasers her. On the table it looks like Hook is the one over Regina. 😕

[Slurpeez]

I have a few more thoughts after re-watching the promo:

1) “How can you help me?” Captain Hook asks, presumably to Tamara. Also, Tamara says, “We know how to kill magical creatures” and so she offers to help Hook get revenge on Rumple. Only the Dark One can’t be killed except by his knife (which he will make sure no one ever finds again after the fiasco of The Miller’s Daughter near-death experience). So, if Tamara does use her magic taser on Rumple, it might only drain him of his powers without killing him.
2) “The battle to save magic continues.” the announcer says as Rumple then says to Regina, “there will be suffering.” Perhaps this is part of the final battle he foresees happening with the arrival of Tamara and potentially other outsiders.
3) “A new hero arrives,” says the announcer as Robin Hood enters the frame. Could Robin Hood be alive in present-day EF or SB? If so, then perhaps he is connected to Tamara not as her ally but as her enemy. Maybe he could help save SB and/or Henry.
4) “A family is torn apart” quite literally since Greg and Owen kidnap Henry in the finale and take him to another world.

"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

[RumplesGirl]

1) “How can you help me?” Captain Hook asks, presumably to Tamara. Also, Tamara says, “We know how to kill magical creatures” and so she offers to help Hook get revenge on Rumple. Only the Dark One can’t be killed except by his knife (which he will make sure no one ever finds again after the fiasco of The Miller’s Daughter near-death experience). So, if Tamara does use her magic taser on Rumple, it might only drain him of his powers without killing him.

I think this is a huge possibility. I think unlike Cora, Tamara has no designs to be the new Dark One…she just wants his magic. So if they use it on Rumple and the electrodes on Regina are doing basically the same thing then Tamara suddenly has the powers of the Evil Queen and the Dark One. Can you say gulp??

3) “A new hero arrives,” says the announcer as Robin Hood enters the frame. Could Robin Hood be alive in present-day EF or SB? If so, then perhaps he is connected to Tamara not as her ally but as her enemy. Maybe he could help save SB and/or Henry.

I don’t know. I’m really hesitant to say he is alive in SB (maybe the present day EF) just because his sole purpose in the episode seems to be as a counter to Rumbelle (because Rumple is still darker in this episode than in Skin Deep) and I can’t see him playing a larger role outside of his one episode (unless he’s needed for some reason in S3). As far as Tamara goes, I’m not 100% convinced she’s NOT the daughter of Hood and Marian. I know they said Tamara has not FTL counterpart but the child of Robin Hook and Marian would be a new thing.

"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"

[Phee]

@RumplesGirl wrote:

So either they’re not under the hospital, or we were all wrong about what happened to Kurt, which in turn begs the question of what did happen to him?

I’m almost more willing to believe that they’re not under the hospital because trying to figure out where Kurt is if he’s not under the hospital is just baffling. Because if he had left SB, he would have found Owen and Regina couldn’t send him someplace else, right?
So then where are they? Maybe they steal the equipment and are in the mayor’s office?

Too dark and plain to be her office or home. The walls look like a decent match to the colour of the hospital basement walls IMO. There’s one shot of Greg where the wall behind him looks rough, sort of like rock, which suggests they may be underground at some point. There’s a shot of Tamara with a smooth, plain wall, with a pattern like shafts of light through a window, similar to what we saw in Belle’s cell. And the shot of Hook looking down on Regina, the walls are definitely plain and grey and cold looking. That shot in particular feels like the hospital basement to me. They’d no doubt want to lock her up between capturing her and shocking her, so again, the basement cells makes sense. Also, it would be sort of fitting if Regina ends up as a prisoner down there herself, especially if this is something we end up seeing in an ep about Belle.

[RumplesGirl]

The hospital does make the most sense, so if we accept that then we have to theorize other possible locations of Kurt.

1) Hospital but GOAT are unaware of this

2) Could Regina send Kurt to another land? Magic hasn’t totally dwindled out of SB. She still had some magical objects, like she used in An Apple as Red as Blood to get the hat to work.

3) Could Regina have erased Kurt’s memories?

4) Did Regina take Kurt’s heart and then kill him?

"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"

[Slurpeez]

@RumplesGirl wrote:

Ithink this is a huge possibility. I think unlike Cora,Tamara has no designs to be the new Dark One…she just wants his magic. So if they use it on Rumple and the electrodes on Regina are doing basically the same thing then Tamara suddenly has the powers of the Evil Queen and the Dark One. Can you say gulp??

Yeah, and in the special BTS episode Price of Magic, Adam and Eddy said that Tamara was intent on acquiring the Dragon’s magical abilities, which usually would kill a magical creature in the process. Presumably, she is after stealing all magic from SB: fairy dust and dark magic alike.

I I’m really hesitant to say he is alive in SB (maybe the present day EF) just because his sole purpose in the episode seems to be as a counter to Rumbelle (because Rumple is still darker in this episode than in Skin Deep) and I can’t see him playing a larger role outside of his one episode (unless he’s needed for some reason in S3). As far as Tamara goes, I’m not 100% convinced she’s NOT the daughter of Hood and Marian. I know they said Tamara has not FTL counterpart but the child of Robin Hook and Marian would be a new thing.

I recall Adam and Eddy said somewhere that Robin Hood is being introduced in S2 because of how it fits into the story arch (probably mostly into Lacey with Rumbelle). His backstory won’t be introduced in S2, but they did say he could reappear in S3 (either in FTL flashbacks or even in the present-day). Also, there is the theory that Tamara is Marian’s daughter. Could be.

Edward Kitsis: “It’s done in the spirit of what we did a lot in Season 1 — bringing in a character and mashing him up with our story without having to do ‘the Robin Hood story.’ But now there is a character in our universe who, should the time arise, we would love to delve into further.” http://www.examiner.com/article/once-upon-a-time-spoilers-new-robin-hood-and-neal-teasers

@Phee wrote:

Too dark and plain to be her office or home. The walls look like a decent match to the colour of the hospital basement walls IMO. There’s one shot of Greg where the wall behind him looks rough, sort of like rock, which suggests they may be underground at some point. There’s a shot of Tamara with a smooth, plain wall, with a pattern like shafts of light through a window, similar to what we saw in Belle’s cell. And the shot of Hook looking down on Regina, the walls are definitely plain and grey and cold looking. That shot in particular feels like the hospital basement to me. They’d no doubt want to lock her up between capturing her and shocking her, so again, the basement cells makes sense. Also, it would be sort of fitting if Regina ends up as a prisoner down there herself, especially if this is something we end up seeing in an ep about Belle.

I think GOAT and Hook either have Regina captured in the hospital basement or maybe even underground in her own heart vault.

"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

[RumplesGirl]

Yes I remember that interview. I read it as, “we now have another character we can play with if the need arises and he’s the best fit, but for now, he’s story has more to do with Rumbelle in the EF of the Past than it does with Robin’s own story.” And maybe he’s Tamara’s father. Still not giving that one up.

Presumably, she is after stealing all magic from SB: fairy dust and dark magic alike.

And the beans. Somehow GOAT learn about the beans. It’s interesting that she doesn’t care about the kind of magic, just that she wants magic in general. If it were for personal use, you’d think she’d be after one specific type (Dark magic, like Cora, for power or Good magic to help someone else).

I think GOAT and Hook either have Regina captured in the hospital basement or maybe even underground in her own heart vault.

If it’s her heart vault, that is some delicious irony right there.

"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"

[Phee]

@slurpeez108 wrote:

I have a few more thoughts after re-watching the promo:

1) “How can you help me?” Captain Hook asks, presumably to Tamara. Also, Tamara says, “We know how to kill magical creatures” and so she offers to help Hook get revenge on Rumple. Only the Dark One can’t be killed except by his knife (which he will make sure no one ever finds again after the fiasco of The Miller’s Daughter near-death experience). So, if Tamara does use her magic taser on Rumple, it might only drain him of his powers without killing him.

If they’re gonna zap Regina somehow to take away her powers, I dunno that they’d do the same thing to Rumple, just because it’s lacking originality from a storytelling standpoint. I’m really curious to know what’s running through Hook’s mind in that scene where he’s looking at Regina, because what he wants and if he has even the slightest change of heart will impact on whether or not Rumple is under a real threat of being tasered. Maybe that thing would kill him? When the legend of the Dark One was born, it didn’t exactly take into account electrical devices that can suck magic, so the usual rules may not apply now with this new weapon in the mix.

[angiebelle]

Yay promos!

But what is with them barely showing Lacey?! The episode is named after her and you barely see any hint of the RumBelle storyline- particularly in the Us promo. Oh well- less than a week till we finally get to see it!

So curious about the little glimpses they gave us. Hook teaming with Greg and Tamara? Regina getting shock therapy?! Someone either dies or is thought to be dead because we see characters dressed for a funeral…(I suspect Neal may by thought to be dead- honestly, I’d rather no one died for real- particularly core characters or those directly related to core characters.)

It looks like I was right about Belle- Lacey likes darkness…Rumple will either succumb to temptation or have to fight for Belle to find her goodness again.

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