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February 19, 2013 at 1:00 am #174229mich7Participant
@jessista wrote:
Actually, I’ve been to South Street Seaport in NYC, and a lot of the ships I’ve seen there (they have a museum indoors, so maybe that explains it?) look like old-type ships. Hook’s getup would be kind of crazy looking, even to New Yorkers.
So the ship might fit right in but not the clothing…and if he’s got his hook back lol…then again maybe people would just think they were filming some movie…which is why I don’t Greg and his cell phone…load that thing up on youtube and no one would believe it was real.
@HappyEndings wrote:
I wonder how Hook even got to NY in the 1st place, and if Neal was Peter Pan wouldn’t he or Cook recognized each other?
Talk about pot holes that Tiny Episode had a lot, like why did Emma and Cook have to have something on their wrists to climb the beanstalk, and why didn’t James just throw all the money down for his Kingdom, plus how did Cora capture the Giant in the 1st place. 😕
I hope this episode doesn’t miss alot of details like again..
The stuff about James bothered me as well…they killed all those giants and got just a few trinkets…they could have easily went back and took out one giant and took every piece of treasure in the place.
As for Hook and Neal recognizing each other…unlikely if Bae was frozen at 14 in Neverland all those years…Hook may not recognize the adult version. That’s one of the worries I have with the Peter Pan or lost boy storyline and yes I do think they are taking Nealfire there…but if he was young when he got there they will have to use the other actor and that kid is growing up fast…I hope they do it early in season 3…time is ticking…tick tock.
[adrotate group="5"]February 19, 2013 at 3:19 am #174250rubyphoenixParticipantAntBee I’ve been thinking that all day…that they go back on Hook’s ship…I think the ship is the only way Hook could get to New York in the first place…he knows nothing about cars (except how to dodge them now) and planes and whatever. He just sails down the coast and Emma and company sail back…I hope they show the scene of Hook coming into New York Harbor(is that right)…just the look on people’s faces…let’s face it…it isn’t exactly a modern looking ship and Hook dressed in his outfit and he has his hook back…I want to see it.
I agree. I think sailing is the most likely way he ends up in NY, too. Not sure how he finds out that Rumple is in NY but hopefully we’ll find out. Also, I can’t believe I just noticed this, but in the US promo, they showed the title card for the next ep and it had Hook’s ship. 🙂
February 19, 2013 at 3:45 am #174252nonnieParticipantEVERYONE in NY Harbor would think it is one of the TALL SHIPS coming to port… they come to MI every couple of years and have to sail down St Lawrence Seaway to get to MI. The Tall Ships sail around the world to exhibit, I am sure they have been to NY.
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.February 19, 2013 at 4:55 am #174256naomiParticipantRegarding the Hook connection:
I love how we’re pretty much back to square one. 😆
Sure, we know Neal is Bae, and Bae is Neal. But who IS he really?
And while there’s a 99.999999% chance Neal’s “stopover” took place in Neverland (where he subsequently met Hook and stopped aging)…isn’t there an itsy-bitsy-tiny chance that it could’ve been Wonderland where they met? I’m just bringing that up because there were a bunch of playing cards (Clubs) stuck to the wall of his apartment next to the ominous number 13s. And remember the Cleaners & Hatters sign and all the heart paraphernalia?
credit to appleasredasblood.tumblr.comBut I kinda hope the writers don’t make Neal a realm jumper. Cause how they heck did Rumple (or Jefferson) not run into him at some point? Or maybe that is the point?
Oh well. One theory down. A million more to go!
February 19, 2013 at 5:42 am #174260chuckles1Participant@Naomi wrote:
Regarding the Hook connection
But I kinda hope the writers don’t make Neal a realm jumper. Cause how they heck did Rumple (or Jefferson) not run into him at some point? Or maybe that is the point?!
Really good point but if you remember when Emma tackled him and then said something about his dad, Neal said ‘are you serious you brought him to me, I’ve been running from him my whole life!’
And that makes me thing does he know rumple has been searching of him and has be been dodging him.
Just a thought
February 19, 2013 at 5:58 am #174261PheeParticipant@ItachiIshtar wrote:
Maybe since the ship was enchanted like Bae’s shawl was, the ship will still be invisible when he leaves Storybrooke?
Yeah I was wondering that too. Evidently people lose their magic, but objects can retain it, (not just the shawl, but Regina’s objects retained their magic in the jump to SB too). Though it’d look less suspect if he sailed the visible ship into NY, instead of docking an invisible ship and stepping off it in front of people.
Pretty sure they’ll all have to hitch a ride on that boat to get back to SB. If Neal is Pan, and he and Hook had a civil relationship in the past, maybe he’ll be able to say, “Do it for me?” Maybe that’s what the scene between Neal and Emma is about?
Neal: Maybe we can use Hook’s ship.
Emma: Yeah, THAT’S gonna happen.
Neal: Well, I sorta know the guy, so maybe I can reason with him.
Emma: You know Hook?@Naomi wrote:
And while there’s a 99.999999% chance Neal’s “stopover” took place in Neverland (where he subsequently met Hook and stopped aging)…isn’t there an itsy-bitsy-tiny chance that it could’ve been Wonderland where they met? I’m just bringing that up because there were a bunch of playing cards (Clubs) stuck to the wall of his apartment next to the ominous number 13s. And remember the Cleaners & Hatters sign and all the heart paraphernalia?
Yeah I noticed those cards and wondered if they may have significance. Don’t think Hook was in Wonderland long enough to meet anyone other than Cora though, and Wonderland doesn’t prevent you from aging, does it? Some people had thought that Neal may be the White Rabbit, given some Wonderland-ish stuff in his apartment. The most obvious one is the sign screaming HATTERS, and I wonder if that could have been a nod to Neal being Bae, because he went down a whirling vortex portal like the Hatter does. Now that we know from the promo that he went to another world first, that means he’s portal jumped at least twice, maybe more if he’s Pan and was able to go back and forth between here and Neverland multiple times.
February 19, 2013 at 9:02 am #174264swanning-offParticipant@Mich7 wrote:
I hope they show the scene of Hook coming into New York Harbor(is that right)…just the look on people’s faces…let’s face it…it isn’t exactly a modern looking ship and Hook dressed in his outfit and he has his hook back…I want to see it.
O. M. G. Yes! This would be brilliant!!!
February 19, 2013 at 12:58 pm #174275mich7Participant@RumplesGirl wrote:
@Mich7 wrote:
AntBee I’ve been thinking that all day…that they go back on Hook’s ship…I think the ship is the only way Hook could get to New York in the first place…he knows nothing about cars (except how to dodge them now) and planes and whatever. He just sails down the coast and Emma and company sail back…I hope they show the scene of Hook coming into New York Harbor(is that right)…just the look on people’s faces…let’s face it…it isn’t exactly a modern looking ship and Hook dressed in his outfit and he has his hook back…I want to see it.
I think you and AntBee are on the right track. For Hook to suddenly get on a plane and get to NYC makes very little sense. He’s been in our world for a very short period of time. I wonder if he can cloak his ship and sail it.
Wanted to add this after thinking about it last night. The writers on the podcast said that there were some very important things in Hook’s ship that belong to Cora…and one very important thing. I had been wondering if that might not have been her heart. If it is and she doesn’t get it before Hook sets sail for Manhattan it might be possible that once Cora gets the dagger that Emma and co. might find her heart on the ship…they would then have a trump card when dealing with Cora when she comes after Rumple with the dagger…Something Cora would be willing to exchange the dagger for.
February 19, 2013 at 1:10 pm #174278PheeParticipant@Mich7 wrote:
Wanted to add this after thinking about it last night. The writers on the podcast said that there were some very important things in Hook’s ship that belong to Cora…and one very important thing. I had been wondering if that might not have been her heart. If it is and she doesn’t get it before Hook sets sail for Manhattan it might be possible that once Cora gets the dagger that Emma and co. might find her heart on the ship…they would then have a trump card when dealing with Cora when she comes after Rumple with the dagger…Something Cora would be willing to exchange the dagger for.
I’ve no doubt that one of her things from the ship is her heart. I’ll bet she got it off the ship and hid it somewhere safe by now though. Was thinking about this earlier and decided it’d be awesome if Regina gets her hands on both the dagger, and Cora’s heart, which she gives to Rumple and tells him to crush it, like he told her to finish off the unicorn that time. Would be a nice little parallel, right down to the fact that it was a black unicorn and Cora’s full of dark magic.
February 19, 2013 at 1:42 pm #174289RumplesGirlKeymaster@Phee wrote:
@Mich7 wrote:
Wanted to add this after thinking about it last night. The writers on the podcast said that there were some very important things in Hook’s ship that belong to Cora…and one very important thing. I had been wondering if that might not have been her heart. If it is and she doesn’t get it before Hook sets sail for Manhattan it might be possible that once Cora gets the dagger that Emma and co. might find her heart on the ship…they would then have a trump card when dealing with Cora when she comes after Rumple with the dagger…Something Cora would be willing to exchange the dagger for.
I’ve no doubt that one of her things from the ship is her heart. I’ll bet she got it off the ship and hid it somewhere safe by now though. Was thinking about this earlier and decided it’d be awesome if Regina gets her hands on both the dagger, and Cora’s heart, which she gives to Rumple and tells him to crush it, like he told her to finish off the unicorn that time. Would be a nice little parallel, right down to the fact that it was a black unicorn and Cora’s full of dark magic.
That is a really nice parallel. I’d like to think that Regina will wake up pretty soon and realize that Cora is not really here for her and Henry but for her own agenda. This will cause her to turn on Cora and hopefully she’ll be the one to end Cora.
Speaking of Cora’s heart: does this mean the heart was in Wonderland when Hook came to kill Cora? I’m still bothered by Cora’s comment that she had been to too many land to turn back now (I believe “Into the Deep”). It made me think that her heart was in another land. We’ve only seen her in WL and FTL and now SB."He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love" -
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