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Is this still the case, O’Donoghue being a regular? Somebody on ABC’s board said the creators plan to kill Hook off by the end of season 2. I hope not. Given the reaction fans are having to him, it seems like that’d be a terrible thing to do.
[adrotate group="5"]I think he’s a regular for the last 9 episodes of the series. As for killing off Hook, I can see why they might want to do it. They can’t have too many villains redeeming themselves. If he does die, I can see it being at Cora’s hand. Whether he dies a heroic death protecting Emma and fighting against Cora or whether it’s his comeuppance remains to be seen.
Hook’s a fun character but where would his story go past season 2? I’d rather he went out with a bang than a whimper.
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I think he’s a regular for the last 9 episodes of the series. As for killing off Hook, I can see why they might want to do it. They can’t have too many villains redeeming themselves. If he does die, I can see it being at Cora’s hand. Whether he dies a heroic death protecting Emma and fighting against Cora or whether it’s his comeuppance remains to be seen.
Hook’s a fun character but where would his story go past season 2? I’d rather he went out with a bang than a whimper.
Yes, I’d rather he go out with a bang than a whimper too.
I also agree that he’s a fun character, but I think once he achieves his goal of revenge which won’t actually be killing Rumple, imo, but more along the lines of revealing to Bae and/or Belle what Rumple did to Milha, I don’t really think there’s much purpose for him anymore. He could be redeemed, but I agree that not every villain needs to be redeemed because I do think it becomes ridiculous after awhile that viewers just can’t enjoy villains being villains sometimes. It makes sense in the long run to want to redeem Rumple and Regina since they’re long term characters, but for villains like King George, Cora, and I think Hook, you can make them sympathetic at times certainly, but they don’t all deserve a redemption story line.
Also, from a financial point of view and writing/producing point of view, it makes sense, imo, to demote Hook back to recurring status once his story line is over this year, because they need to save time and money for whomever the villain(s) might be next season. There’s also a strong possibility that if Neal is Bae or if Bae is just Bae and comes to Storybrooke alive and kicking that they’ll make that actor a regular because so much has revolved around him. Unfortunately for Hook, he’s expendable once his revenge plot is over, imo, because Cora will likely be killed or at least vanquished in someway which means he has no allies there. He certainly won’t have an ally in Rumple and probably not with Belle. He could possibly save Emma’s life to help redeem himself, but other than being friends, now that he’s taken out Aurora’s heart and most likely going after innocent Belle, I don’t really think there’s a strong connection there in order to have him stay a regular next season unless they do give him a full blown redemption story next season. It’s possible, but I think they’re just going to do that with Rumple and Regina because the cast is already bloated enough that with more new character inevitable being added, there’s just not enough time for everyone as it is without adding having to redeem every villain.
That’s why I do think he’ll likely die by the end of this season or at least disappear somewhere else like maybe back to what’s left of FTL, back to Neverland or whatever might be left, or even escape to our world since I’m guessing his memories wouldn’t be hurt by crossing the border. If they kill him off, he can go out with a bang, and they can bring him back like they do the Sheriff who must not be named. If they have him leave Storybrooke for someplace else, they could probably bring him back more often if they chose to, and possibly have his new life lead into some type of story line for next year like if we saw him running into Peter Pan or Wendy Darling and one of those characters made his/her way to Storybrooke after encountering Hook.
You’re right. They are going to need room for different characters next year otherwise they are not going to have time to tell a decent story.
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Keeper of FelixOh, you won’t have to worry about that. It’s only a matter of time before Regina goes bad again. Also, for Rumpel. I just love this show, but never had a favorite character until now. I feel really strongly about my belief that the writers should keep Hook on board. If they don’t they’ll break a lot of hearts. They’ve make a lot of viewers very happy with him, and I don’t like the thought that the writers don’t consider their viewers when making decisions. ABC has something great going with Hook. I just hope they don’t wave that steak under their viewers noses, and then rip it away. Seems a bit cruel, to me. I know this is just a show but when someone commits their viewership to it (becomes a fan), they become a part of it. We viewers are not rag dolls to play around with, and the perception that we are seen that way is demoralizing.
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Oh, you won’t have to worry about that. It’s only a matter of time before Regina goes bad again. Also, for Rumpel. I just love this show, but never had a favorite character until now. I feel really strongly about my belief that the writers should keep Hook on board. If they don’t they’ll break a lot of hearts. They’ve make a lot of viewers very happy with him, and I don’t like the thought that the writers don’t consider their viewers when making decisions. ABC has something great going with Hook. I just hope they don’t wave that steak under their viewers noses, and then rip it away. Seems a bit cruel, to me. I know this is just a show but when someone commits their viewership to it (becomes a fan), they become a part of it. We viewers are not rag dolls to play around with, and the perception that we are seen that way is demoralizing.
I feel the same way about Rumple that you feel about Hook. They take away Rumple and I’ll just sit somewhere and cry.
I think season two will be all about Cora and Hook, possibly with Hook turning on Cora toward the end. Cora will be dealt with by the end of the second season and season three will see the return of Regina/Rumple showdowns as he tries to find Bae and I think she does slip back into her Evil Queen persona, especially when it becomes very apparent that people are going to want revenge on her (and ultimately Rumple) AND that she will is going to lose Henry to Emma. Enter Hook as perhaps a “reformed” (no one ever stays reformed) bad guy who has a vendetta against Rumple leading perhaps to the CaptainEvil ship.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"You are seeing it in the wrong way. I don’t think the writers would ever think of viewers as rag dolls, in the end we are their source of income. But when they start a show with a clear idea in their mind, it’s hard to change it “because the viewers want it”, sometimes it wouldn’t make sense to the story they want to tell. I believe Once is not one of those shows that wonder in random directions according to fans’ wishes but that the writers actually have a clear idea of where they want the series to go and that they have a plan they need to stick to in order for the story to remain logical.
Also, if we, as viewers, always had whatever we wanted, it would be boring! I like the suspense, not knowing when and where a twist might hit.
Also, I don’t see Hook as a great characters myself and there are other viewers who just find him annoying. After all, he’s only been in a few episodes and we haven’t REALLY seen what he’s up to. Perhaps if/when his story comes up, I will change my opinion, but my point is – you might feel strongly about this character but there will be many others that will not, or in fact, that will dislike him. And same with all the other characters. It’s hard to keep the balance between what the viewers really want and what’s best for them. Don’t diss the writers just because they would kill off an irregular character just because he was YOUR favourite… I would be MEGA MEGA upset if Regina dies but whatever happens, happens, what’s dead is dead, as long as they keep on an interesting story to watch!The reason I see Hook as a great character, is because of one thing: Potential. Rumpel, and Hook share one big thing in common: Their profiles carry the freedom for the writers to write them out of their mold. Like I said in another post: It’s like a Russian Nesting Doll. You open up one, and there’s another possibilitiy in there waiting to be opened. As for Regina, or David’s father: I can’t put my finger on “why”, but to me, I don’t see so much freedom for the writers to do that. They seem in my mind, to carry a predispositon to the consequences of the decisions they made at their point of origin; to be evil. Maybe it’s because in Hook’s case, his negativity is directed at one individual. In their cases, it’s directed at everyone because they thirst for power and domination. In Rumpel’s case, he hates the albatross of being the “dark one”. If he could become a good guy again and lose that part of him, I think he’d love to. I think if Hook learned that hatred consumes the hating much as the hater, he’d probably be a better guy, too.
After seeing the sneak peek of how Hook treated Belle and his actions in the last episode, it doesn’t look like Hook is going to last beyond the end of the season. It seems they are setting him up to get his comeuppance. When he was first introduced, he seemed like a cheeky charmer but after trying to kill Belle in fairytale land I think the audience’s perception of Hook will change and he will be seen as a villain.
Isn’t Cora meant to turn someone into a fish or something? Perhaps she turns Hook into a “codfish”.
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Keeper of FelixI’m having an interesting reaction to Hook. I usually enjoy watching the antics of villains, and have a good bit of respect for well-planned ruthlessness. Hook is such an indiscriminate bully for the pure sake of being a bully that I’m liking him the least out of Rumple, Regina, Cora and George. Not to say he’s worse than the other four, but I just find him less enjoyable of a villan. It’s…interesting. I’m not sure if this what the writers are going for, or if the character is just not working for me.
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